If the PSS9's are easy (and cheap) to revalve, it should (hopefully) be easy to match the vishnu ohlins in damping characteristics. Then just readjust the ride-height and we should be good to go...or it could just be wishful thinking.

If a ginea-pig car is needed, I'll be more than happy to volunteer!

 

does anybody know what might be the ETA on the Ohlins, or is it just a guess. Actually another question, are they going to be available at all??

 

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From my knowledge although Bilsteins are easy and cheap they are too soft. Yes they probably could be revalved to be stiffer and match the Vishnu Ohlins curve but IMHO the quality is not upto par with Ohlins. Why? Because they are made of regular steel, not stainless steel, which means they will rust over time. Given the fact that a lot of EVO owners live where we get snow and the roads get sprayed with salt, the Bilsteins from a longevity view point wouldn't get the nod. I certainly wouldn't buy them.

The KW V3s are great and they are stainless steel but its not monotube in design like the Ohlins. The entry level Ohlins R&T are both monotube and made from stainless steel. The quality is high enough where the click settings actually make a change in the dampening curve from what I have heard. From a quality and cost perspective the Ohlins are great entry level shocks. Even as an entry level product they are quite expensive, given the average EVO owner is pinching pennies on Ebay exhausts and majority are buying sub-$1000 Megan/BC/insert_your_favourite_brand cheap-o coilovers to "improve" their handling. The market for a more expensive product just isn't there.

Its just too bad the Ohlins USA can't get their act together and isn't delivering the product to Vishnu/Chronohunter. I find it interesting, how others are able to acquire Ohlins (eg: Works), favoritism maybe? But that is just conjecture on my part. Vishnu can't just give out their re-valve specs to anyone because that is their intellectual property (IP) and distinguishes their design from others. I believe there would be some complication with having to outsource their revalves and details would have to be worked out. Paul please feel to correct me if anything I have stated is inaccurate.

From my limited understanding of suspension theory and design, I prefer the Vishnu/Chronohunter setup as a lot of their design falls in line with my logic of designing a good suspension. I honestly believe that Vishnu/Chronohunter have the real mc-coy. Either way it saddens me to see that they aren't able to market, what I believe to be an awesome product, to the majority of EVO owners.

The way things are playing out, it seems the product is geared towards those with a penchant for patience, as good things come to those that wait. My case just happens to be a circumstance to bad luck and timing. If nothing changes in the interim then I might get a revalve by early may and have the coilovers on my car by mid-may. But I'm hoping and praying that they are able to "pull some strings" and make it happen faster than that. At this point given the fact that Ohlins USA isn't being very co-operative with Vishnu, IMHO Vishnu should just concentrate on selling their revalves and specs to people who purchase Ohlins through other means ....

 

Are the services/materials being requested by Vishnu from Ohlins any different from what Works is getting/requesting??

 

I guess if this doesn't pan out with Vishnu, then I suppose the next hope will be AMS, since they can leverage the combined knowledge of Paul, Lawrence, and Mark as they are working on dialing in some suspension offerings.

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If you bought a set of "Vishnu spec" Ohlins then you are privy to the valving specs. In theory you could take them apart and see what shims are in there. I don't see why it would be a problem to send your shocks to a 3rd party who doesn't even sell Ohlins to the EVO market to be revalved. They wouldn't even have to know where the specs came from. Just give them a grocery list of what you want done. . .

As for Ohlins being stainless steel, I had a set of R/T Ohlins that corroded horribly after only a couple exposures to salty roads - they did not really rust, but whatever that gold coating is corroded very badly. . .

EVOlutionary

 

Gavanised...= gold coating threadeds not coated= bad corosion...

 

Interesting. Czubaka and I live in the land of no rust -- the desert.

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Yes you could do that but Vishnu/Chronohunter's pricing for revalves are very reasonable. Plus part of setting up the shock is knowing the correct amount of oil and gas pressures to get the desired result.

 

Does anyone know if the Ohlins DFV is a direct replacement/equivalent of the Ohlins R/T? (i.e. the ones that Works and AMS seem to be selling)

l8r)

 

From what I have heard the Ohlins Sportline is the direct replacement for Ohlin R/T. From what I have read, Ohlins DFV is a newer design that is both internally and externally different/improved.

 

I'm sorry, I thought that you had the shocks and your only problem was that they didn't have anyone available to revalve them now. . .

 

I thought the same

 

I do have Ohlins R&T and yes I am waiting to be revalved to Vishnu/Chronohunter specs. Yes currently there is no one available to revalve them ... I hope you guys aren't confusing revalving with recharging the shocks.