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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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The altitude is desirable from the tuner's standpoint. It permits the development of mapping that covers different locales as well as fuel quality.

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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 08:44 PM
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True trueWingless Wonder. But my point is that if folks are expecting to see maximum dyno numbers, we won't see them from a higher altitude environment, right?
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 08:54 PM
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Yes. The best comparison would be to cars tuned on the same dyno.

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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by DynoKing
Also I want to know if any of the dumbass DMS fools tried to kick Shiv's ***. I wish they would try that **** on me.
Its DSM dude. I can vouch for the time I was there no one kicked his *** physically.

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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:06 PM
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Its DSM dude. I can vouch for the time I was there no one kicked his *** physically.

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So I guess the salty dogs cam to verbally accost?
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:10 PM
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So I guess the salty dogs cam to verbally accost?
No one insulted him in person or in front of his customers. We have our opinions and we left it at that.

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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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Stage 1+ was at 340hp/ 360lbft SAE corrected. You run out of turbo real quick at altitude all on 91oct. Dyno charts to follow...
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by chronohunter
Stage 1+ was at 340hp/ 360lbft SAE corrected. You run out of turbo real quick at altitude all on 91oct. Dyno charts to follow...
I knew it great #s!! Makes sea level guys like me I knew this setup is putting out some great power!! What was you final cam gear setting?
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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Doggin Shiv

You can say anything you want about Shiv, but personally I thought he and Bret handled themselves very professionally. If there were disparaging comments made, I didnt hear them.

I do find it somewhat interesting that a couple of the guys with the Super AFCs and boost controller route were making damn close to the same amount of horsepower as the piggybacks though.

The dynos here at altitude do pressure/temperature correction which estimates the power at sea level. The dyno at MAC is approximately 6000' ASL and they take that into account when doing their corrected horsepower numbers.

Landry, good to see your ride laying down the crazy numbers. What was it, 493whp?

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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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The correction factor used all weekend was 1.21. The environmentals were pretty consistant. So his actual raw HP numbers at altitude are 269hp/285 tq.

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Re: Doggin Shiv

Originally posted by JaMa
You can say anything you want about Shiv, but personally I thought he and Bret handled themselves very professionally. If there were disparaging comments made, I didnt hear them.

I do find it somewhat interesting that a couple of the guys with the Super AFCs and boost controller route were making damn close to the same amount of horsepower as the piggybacks though.

The dynos here at altitude do pressure/temperature correction which estimates the power at sea level. The dyno at MAC is approximately 6000' ASL and they take that into account when doing their corrected horsepower numbers.

Landry, good to see your ride laying down the crazy numbers. What was it, 493whp?

J
Naw I am a believer that SAFC control can lay down the #s the additional timing control and RPM dependant BC is a consistancy maker. The Xede isnt a power maker its a tuning tool and its all in how its used
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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Re: Doggin Shiv

Originally posted by JaMa
You can say anything you want about Shiv, but personally I thought he and Bret handled themselves very professionally. If there were disparaging comments made, I didnt hear them.

I do find it somewhat interesting that a couple of the guys with the Super AFCs and boost controller route were making damn close to the same amount of horsepower as the piggybacks though.

The dynos here at altitude do pressure/temperature correction which estimates the power at sea level. The dyno at MAC is approximately 6000' ASL and they take that into account when doing their corrected horsepower numbers.

Landry, good to see your ride laying down the crazy numbers. What was it, 493whp?

J
Two weeks ago we put down 400ish uncorrected. Yesterday I tried it after we changed some MAF settings. I'll go back in a couple weeks and finish it up.

I must have missed the cars with the S-AFC's. When were those and what numbers did they put down?

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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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Guy from the Springs

Well, there was a guy from CO Springs there running 20PSI an EBC, a SAFC2 and an exhaust system with a cat putting down ~320whp corrected. Thats not too bad considering he was running canned settings and not much more boost than stock. He was the one in the slammed red evo with the gauges on the steering column.

There's no argument that piggyback control is probably better over all, but thats sure good bang for the $$$.

J

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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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Ahh ok I know who your talkin about now. He didn't have any timing control did he? If not thats good.

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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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Nope

Nope, stock advance no timing control whatsoever.

Buschur settings on an AFC and a boost controller and thats it.

J



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