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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 05:17 AM
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Evolution IVGSR;5778675]Hey does anyone know a web site or anyone who can make or find or get a Carbon Fiber sunroof insert? I need one for my car. The roll cage does not allow a sunroof so I have the sunroof hole taped shut or nothing there right now when I drive. Jason don't you and a friend do something with carbon fiber? Some one told me there is a guy in Lehi somewhere that can make them for like $300 to $400???[/
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Yes my friend and I do carbon fiber, call me sometime so we can get together and take a look at the sunroof. I'll pm you my cell #.
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 06:20 AM
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better make that a case
roger that 10-4 over under, under over
Originally Posted by Evolution IVGSR
Hey does anyone know a web site or anyone who can make or find or get a Carbon Fiber sunroof insert? I need one for my car. The roll cage does not allow a sunroof so I have the sunroof hole taped shut or nothing there right now when I drive. Jason don't you and a friend do something with carbon fiber? Some one told me there is a guy in Lehi somewhere that can make them for like $300 to $400???
aaaah **** it just get a cf roof
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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Jake,
So my brother can't stop talking about what a good driver you are at the track and this and that (it came up because we were changing my pads this weekend and he was remembering him and you dad changing pads on their S2000's and you changed yours on the evo in 1/4 of the time). Anyway, since my first time on the track is this saturday, I'm trying to get some advice. I'm not going to worry too much this first time about suspension setup, balances, tire pressures, etc. because I don't have any experience to go off of yet. I need a starting point before I can say that one set up is better than the other. But just so I'm not too lost, what should I be feeling for as far as balance? What tire pressures would your recommend? Any advice for my first day would be greatly appreciated.

Also there is still room for more drivers if anyone is interested. It's with the local Porsche Club of America. Should be pretty fun.
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by chuckbyu
Jake,
So my brother can't stop talking about what a good driver you are at the track and this and that (it came up because we were changing my pads this weekend and he was remembering him and you dad changing pads on their S2000's and you changed yours on the evo in 1/4 of the time). Anyway, since my first time on the track is this saturday, I'm trying to get some advice. I'm not going to worry too much this first time about suspension setup, balances, tire pressures, etc. because I don't have any experience to go off of yet. I need a starting point before I can say that one set up is better than the other. But just so I'm not too lost, what should I be feeling for as far as balance? What tire pressures would your recommend? Any advice for my first day would be greatly appreciated.

Also there is still room for more drivers if anyone is interested. It's with the local Porsche Club of America. Should be pretty fun.
I brought a set of pads out there with me and jake can give ya a check list of things to do etc.. I changed every fluid and rolled out on the track on my yoko all seasons with 28psi. I've been told when I do road race my car with the 2.3 I should run 20/50w track day then change it when I get home. I ran 10/30w so jake please chime in and give the same check list you've posted for me before
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by chuckbyu
Jake,
So my brother can't stop talking about what a good driver you are at the track and this and that (it came up because we were changing my pads this weekend and he was remembering him and you dad changing pads on their S2000's and you changed yours on the evo in 1/4 of the time). Anyway, since my first time on the track is this saturday, I'm trying to get some advice. I'm not going to worry too much this first time about suspension setup, balances, tire pressures, etc. because I don't have any experience to go off of yet. I need a starting point before I can say that one set up is better than the other. But just so I'm not too lost, what should I be feeling for as far as balance? What tire pressures would your recommend? Any advice for my first day would be greatly appreciated.

Also there is still room for more drivers if anyone is interested. It's with the local Porsche Club of America. Should be pretty fun.
I loved changing the pads on the Evo, brembo pad changes FTMFW! Bam, bam, pop, slide, slide, squish, squish, slide, slide, pop, bam, bam. One side done.

Anyway. Pressure is an easy thing to monitor, find someone with a pyrometer (or buy one yourself, i think they're only like 20 bucks) and after every session check the heat. If the temp in the center of the tire is hotter than the edges, lower the pressure, and vice versa. For pressure it really depends on the tire. I usually had around 35 cold but that was on R-compounds. 10w30 is totally fine for the track, if you have an oil temp gauge, keep an eye on that, with the 20-30 min session you shouldn't have problems, and I doubt you would either Wes. But maybe mine stayed cooler because of the Accusump.

I'd love to come out this weekend, but I don't have the 185 to spend right now. And I'd have to get another new rear tire afterwords or beforehand... And that'd be another 160ish.

As far as checklist goes:
A) Change your brakefluid for high heat stuff if you haven't already.
B) Check all your other fluids' levels, change anything you haven't for awhile.
C) Run race gas if you can afford it (its safer for the motor) AND if you have an mbc and are running 20-21, bump it up a pound or two
D) Check your torque on your wheels and make sure you clean everything out of your car, nothing is more annoying than a water bottle that rolls out from under the passenger seat and sloshes around.
E) As it is your first time, the best advice I can give you is: don't get frustrated/concerned with other drivers. Obviously don't run into them, but if someone gets behind you, note that they are behind you, note that they have to wait patiently until you feel comfortable to let them around (its an HPDE not a race, remember that, they should too) and then ignore them until you're ready to let them by.
F) Since you're in an Evo at a Porsche event, be prepared for *******s, and be prepared to have to lift to let people pass you. I can guarentee if you're faster than someone at least one of them will be pissed about it and try not to let you by for awhile... Don't get angry, don't get frustrated, just tell whoever is running the event about it. Even though its a PCA event, they don't want PCA members being stupid any more than they want you being stupid.
G) Remember, Joe's advice is NOT for beginners You cannot take that corner full throttle!
H) Obviously monitor your temps, pressures, and all those other critical things (and gas too, I got 7 mpg on the track in the Evo)

Okay, so there's some safety tips. Have you ever done autox or any other related type racing? Or at least played lots of Forza or GT4/5?

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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
10w30 is totally fine for the track, if you have an oil temp gauge, keep an eye on that, with the 20-30 min session you shouldn't have problems, and I doubt you would either Wes. But maybe mine stayed cooler because of the Accusump.
Tell me more about Accusump...I was checking it out last week
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Its round, and kinda blue in color And makes a whirr whirr noise sometimes.
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
Its round, and kinda blue in color And makes a whirr whirr noise sometimes.
haha o'rly I was looking at a orange one
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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O CRP, don't get the orange one...

Anyway, in seriousness, what do you want to know about it? it makes your car ALMOST as cool as mine.
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
I loved changing the pads on the Evo, brembo pad changes FTMFW! Bam, bam, pop, slide, slide, squish, squish, slide, slide, pop, bam, bam. One side done.
Are you sure that was changing the brake pads?

I've changed all the fluids recently and put the super blue brake fluid in after I finished the pads.
I'm not super worried about heat. It's not supposed to be too hot on Saturday (low 80's in Tooele).

Originally Posted by UT_Evo
Okay, so there's some safety tips. Have you ever done autox or any other related type racing? Or at least played lots of Forza or GT4/5?
I've autocrossed before (it was a blast but I wasn't very good. It was in my RX7.I just need more practice).

Anything that you can tell me that an instructor might say that might NOT apply to AWD or the Evo? (I don't think too many Porsche instructors have ever been in an Evo besides you). I know the newer 911's are AWD but they are rear engine so different dynamic.
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
O CRP, don't get the orange one...

Anyway, in seriousness, what do you want to know about it? it makes your car ALMOST as cool as mine.
install etc. helps keep oil pressure under every condition correct?
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckbyu
Are you sure that was changing the brake pads?

I've changed all the fluids recently and put the super blue brake fluid in after I finished the pads.
I'm not super worried about heat. It's not supposed to be too hot on Saturday (low 80's in Tooele).

I've autocrossed before (it was a blast but I wasn't very good. It was in my RX7.I just need more practice).

Anything that you can tell me that an instructor might say that might NOT apply to AWD or the Evo? (I don't think too many Porsche instructors have ever been in an Evo besides you). I know the newer 911's are AWD but they are rear engine so different dynamic.
Haha yeah, I'm positive that was the brake pads... That was too fast for anything else

Low 80s is hotter than you may think, but you should be fine, the brake fluid is the only thing I've had issue with on any car other than the S, and the S was having heat issues because it was insane.

There isn't too much an instructor (especially if they drive a 911) would tell you that wouldn't apply to the Evo.

Remember that your car is insanely fast, but also very heavy, even compared to a factory C4 you're 300-400 lbs heavier. Try to get someone that has either been driving for a really long time, or who drives a C4 to instruct you. My car now drives very similar to the Evo, minus the oversteer. Which, to be fast in the Evo you should pretend like you're concerned about oversteer, otherwise you'll be taking messed up lines.

Also, the key with the Evo is to mess around with braking points a lot (IME with good pads and R comps the car could out brake a stock C6 Z06 with ease) and remember that you're in one of the world's most forgiving track cars, don't be afraid to hit the gas a little earlier. As long as you're not doing sudden autox like movements, you can hardly screw up in the Evo. If you're going too fast you GENTLY and SMOOTHLY hit the brakes. All you have to do is remember to keep everything smooth (and yeah, we're talking about cars here ). Also, one thing with the Evo to not start out immediatly doing, but get used to is the fact that you can hit the gas a lot sooner coming out of the corner A) because you have turbo lag and B) because you have godly awd.

If anything you won't have bad advice from a decent Porsche driver, just not all the advice that the Evo can take.

Remember to stay smooth, follow the line, keep your hands at 9 and 3 as much as possible, stay smooth on the stick and the clutch. You'll be plenty fine for your first time.

Originally Posted by wesside
install etc. helps keep oil pressure under every condition correct?
Modern (back when Eric and Christian were there) did the install of the Accusump, didn't seem too hard though, for those who are mechanically inclined. It does maintain oil pressure in every condition, and also flushes oil into the engine on start-up to lessen the damaged caused. Basically when you go over a set amount of oil pressure, the accusump charges (mine was 3 qts), when it needs to flush the pressure from lack of oil pressure (like a sharp corner where you're not on the throttle) then it does.
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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Does anyone have a degree wheel?
I ordered some Cosworth 272's, and i don't want to pay to install them.
Thanks.
Old Jun 16, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
Modern (back when Eric and Christian were there) did the install of the Accusump, didn't seem too hard though, for those who are mechanically inclined. It does maintain oil pressure in every condition, and also flushes oil into the engine on start-up to lessen the damaged caused. Basically when you go over a set amount of oil pressure, the accusump charges (mine was 3 qts), when it needs to flush the pressure from lack of oil pressure (like a sharp corner where you're not on the throttle) then it does.
exactly what I thought I think I'll order one just not right at this moment. Dan & Steve going to start pulling my motor tomorrow

Originally Posted by Fairclough
Does anyone have a degree wheel?
I ordered some Cosworth 272's, and i don't want to pay to install them.
Thanks.
Very Nice on the cosworth's

If I had $ to spend and enough of it I would swap out my HKS' for JUN



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