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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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Bobby, save a ton of cash and just go with an FP Red with big cams. This should put you around 420-450hp maybe more but it'd be hard on 91oct. Then add meth if you wanna hit over 500 or a race gas tune.

Those are my plans once work starts to pick up.

Oh btw, the FP Red/Green are straight bolt on turbos, no custom downpipe or header needed. Just some oil lines is all I think.
272 combo, 880cc, 255 pump, meth injection would be good to go with a red

headstuds of course with high boost for security
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay644
Bobby, save a ton of cash and just go with an FP Red with big cams. This should put you around 420-450hp maybe more but it'd be hard on 91oct. Then add meth if you wanna hit over 500 or a race gas tune.

Those are my plans once work starts to pick up.

Oh btw, the FP Red/Green are straight bolt on turbos, no custom downpipe or header needed. Just some oil lines is all I think.
I was looking at them last night The only thing that i dont like is that there still internal wastgate. I thought its better to have a external wastgate
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by EVILBLOODBROTHA
I was looking at them last night The only thing that i dont like is that there still internal wastgate. I thought its better to have a external wastgate
Whats so nice about the FP turbos is that they essentially the stock IX turbo on steriods You still get very close to stock spool up but with tons more power. And of course its a direct and easy swap from stock.

Only thing with the internal wastegate would be to get it with the FP actuator.
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay644
Whats so nice about the FP turbos is that they essentially the stock IX turbo on steriods You still get very close to stock spool up but with tons more power. And of course its a direct and easy swap from stock.

Only thing with the internal wastegate would be to get it with the FP actuator.
I love the fp wastegate on my green it's like 18-19lbs
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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The problem with Internal wastegates is boost creep and taper, External wastegates FTMFW! I can hold 30psi + with no taper.
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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Wes, did Adam get the cable for the Dyno?
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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The problem with Internal wastegates is boost creep and taper, External wastegates FTMFW! I can hold 30psi + with no taper.
One of the downfalls of still having an internal wastegate.
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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doesn't have much to do with wastegate on my green, problem with small turbos is they taper but hit boost alot sooner

Originally Posted by Fairclough
Wes, did Adam get the cable for the Dyno?
That's a negative
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Adam uses a guy down there that's really good, so that's where we'll get er dunn. Does all his cars there (race and otherwise.)
How much he gonna charge? Butch does amazing work (has set up many of COBB's cars) and he only charges 140 for lifetime.

Originally Posted by Jay644
Bobby, save a ton of cash and just go with an FP Red with big cams. This should put you around 420-450hp maybe more but it'd be hard on 91oct. Then add meth if you wanna hit over 500 or a race gas tune.
Originally Posted by wesside
272 combo, 880cc, 255 pump, meth injection would be good to go with a red

headstuds of course with high boost for security
Not for a time attack car. 264/272 combo or S1s, small fast spooling turbo (back in my day it was the TME 6.5 turbo, but I'm sure there's better now), and race gas. Then driver mod the hell out of yourself (assuming you've done coilovers and have at least r-comps as well, and probably track pads too). Then go 2.3l stroker with a larger turbo and upgrade to race slicks.

Vesko's old yellow Evo that was only boosting 17 psi was my idea of a cool time attack car, thing hauled ***. Want a cool time attack Evo, look at what all the time attack type guys are doing. Don't listen to the guys that have never been on track (That was mainly directed to Wes, but I'm pretty sure Juan hasn't either).

Originally Posted by Fairclough
Wes, did Adam get the cable for the Dyno?
Soon as he does I told him to post up here so we can do a big dyno day.
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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How much he gonna charge? Butch does amazing work (has set up many of COBB's cars) and he only charges 140 for lifetime.




Not for a time attack car. 264/272 combo or S1s, small fast spooling turbo (back in my day it was the TME 6.5 turbo, but I'm sure there's better now), and race gas. Then driver mod the hell out of yourself (assuming you've done coilovers and have at least r-comps as well, and probably track pads too). Then go 2.3l stroker with a larger turbo and upgrade to race slicks.

Vesko's old yellow Evo that was only boosting 17 psi was my idea of a cool time attack car, thing hauled ***. Want a cool time attack Evo, look at what all the time attack type guys are doing. Don't listen to the guys that have never been on track (That was mainly directed to Wes, but I'm pretty sure Juan hasn't either).



Soon as he does I told him to post up here so we can do a big dyno day.
272's would work just fine your right though 264/272 or s1's with a smaller turbo would be awesome, but for a red to breathe you want some 272's

my car spools up like 3100 with 272's & my green Your right I don't have lots of road course seat time..only once at spring mountain was too hard & $$ to travel from stg to vegas then another 2hrs to parumph or to slc
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by EVILBLOODBROTHA
koo so does that mean ur going to hook me up then too
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Haha Maybe we will have to see what happens tho first

Originally Posted by ~BoOsTeR~
Adam uses a guy down there that's really good, so that's where we'll get er dunn. Does all his cars there (race and otherwise.)

Word.

Yeah, I wanna hella flush setup. Just need the money first lol
Ya that Guy Does a Awesome Job He has done a lot of friends cars and I will have him do mine when I get a new Setup

Originally Posted by 33
UGH...I am so torn on what to do....

APR Widebody w/ 2.3L/HTA 35R


or

build a big *** truck
Well First off that Evo is SICK and 2nd its not Wide body Looks soo good stock Honestly WIDE BODIES ARE OVER RATED

I would never want a Truck that big it just isn't practical

Originally Posted by Jay644
Bobby, save a ton of cash and just go with an FP Red with big cams. This should put you around 420-450hp maybe more but it'd be hard on 91oct. Then add meth if you wanna hit over 500 or a race gas tune.

Those are my plans once work starts to pick up.

Oh btw, the FP Red/Green are straight bolt on turbos, no custom downpipe or header needed. Just some oil lines is all I think.
I love the Red and Thats my next turbo for sure I want to go for 500 whp on E85 when I do mine

Originally Posted by wesside
272 combo, 880cc, 255 pump, meth injection would be good to go with a red

headstuds of course with high boost for security
Head studs for sure with cams as a minimal to go with the Turbo. Then ya injectors and pump. I would personally rather do E85 than meth but thats just me and I know Wes and a Few other guys would say differently

Originally Posted by EVILBLOODBROTHA
I was looking at them last night The only thing that i dont like is that there still internal wastgate. I thought its better to have a external wastgate
Get the O2 housing that dumps the Wastgate instead of Rec. it into the down pipe. Sounds better and helps with the problems of internal.

Ya I saw this about a month ago its Pretty sick I can't wait to see one in person

Originally Posted by Fairclough
The problem with Internal wastegates is boost creep and taper, External wastegates FTMFW! I can hold 30psi + with no taper.
Ya external is awesome I will miss my tial
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wesside
Evo!
I know everyone on here is going to say Evo. I just had so much **** go wrong on my used Evo that I would want a NEW one, but I dont care for the X.

Originally Posted by Jorda420
how the hell would you park that bish
Can find a parking spot, just park over top a honda or a smart car!

Originally Posted by EVILBLOODBROTHA
I just came from big trucks its over rated. It is nice to have a truck but dam so much money for gas. Go with the looks and the go for cheaper My true roots are import cars should have never got off my path
I have always had a truck and I want one that is so big that it is just barely legal. I dont care about gas mileage. My truck gets 10 mpg with a 400ci right now vs my Evo that got 12-15...not a big difference at all. My bike gets 40mpg and I put more miles on that than most people put on their cars (11k since Sept).

Originally Posted by Timmay81
i wouldnt do a truck of that size but it all depends. a 700hp diesel truck that still gets like 15-20mpg is pretty fun and can whoop alot of modded cars
See now if I had a truck that big, I would not have gotten hydrolocked when the front of my truck dropped into a 6 foot deep hole!!! I have a bike that can whoop most cars out there, so again I am covered on the quickness and speed.

Speaking of which, I had some guy in a C6 Z06 trying to **** with me really bad yesterday after work, so I went with it. Pulled hella hard on him even though I got a ****ty launch and kept my front tire up into 4th gear.


Too bad that doesnt have the same turbo, suspension, etc as the X, otherwise Im sure Jake would be all over that bisch IF it ever came to the states..
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Dallin , lol yeah I know its not a widebody, I was just on AMS's website and that was on there, so I just posted it for visual reference.
Old Jun 17, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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272's would work just fine your right though 264/272 or s1's with a smaller turbo would be awesome, but for a red to breathe you want some 272's

my car spools up like 3100 with 272's & my green Your right I don't have lots of road course seat time..only once at spring mountain was too hard & $$ to travel from stg to vegas then another 2hrs to parumph or to slc
Trust me, your car sucks to how a well set up time attack car would feel. Your max boost is not at 3100. With a stroker your car would be pretty insane though. Or with a 2.5l motor from the factory Your car does feel great though, still, I'd never run meth on a time attack car. It's great for a street car that does some track events and what not since you don't have to worry about needing to put race gas in it, but even ask Adam as he and I agreed on the issue. Rather than invest in a meth kit and a tune for it and all the safety features. Just invest in a tune for race gas and putting race gas in your car when you hit the track. Then you know you're 100% safe (even with all the failsafes etc meth kits can fail and cause boom boom) and don't have to worry about hauling extra meth to the track (every track I've been to has had at least 100 octane unleaded race gas).

I wish all the old Evo guys were still around, Ray's old track Evo was a perfect start for a time attack Evo. I think he had 272s or 280s and a TME 6.5... We did a high gear pull on the free way and he left me like I was standing still and there was no delay between him pushing the gas and leaving me.

Originally Posted by Evolution IVGSR
I would personally rather do E85 than meth but thats just me and I know Wes and a Few other guys would say differently

Ya I saw this about a month ago its Pretty sick I can't wait to see one in person
If I wasn't going race gas then I'd do E85 for sure. If E85 ever picks up here (so there's more than the very few stations) I will make a big push to run my car on it. With how few stations there are, and the fact that you can't get it at all at the track (at least not since I last looked) you'd be more SOL than if you ran out of meth.

Originally Posted by 33
I know everyone on here is going to say Evo. I just had so much **** go wrong on my used Evo that I would want a NEW one, but I dont care for the X.

Too bad that doesnt have the same turbo, suspension, etc as the X, otherwise Im sure Jake would be all over that bisch IF it ever came to the states..
+1 Buy an STi Jaykay, but God damn I hated my Evo too, but a newer IX in decent shape would be pretty sick if you can find one Ryan. Had I been able to find one at a dealer nearby I'd probably have gotten that instead of the STi. Since I had a trade it was hard though since I couldn't really buy from private or out of state. And the best one here was that white IX RS at Ken Garff downtown, and I've gotta have the things the RS is missing in a DD, otherwise I'll get sick of it again just like the first Evo.

And no, no way in Hell. There are two reasons I didn't get a X: 1) is looks, I like the hatch look of the STi better (but the hatch look of the sportback is super ugly, the back looks disgusting), and more important than that 2) is Mitsubishi, you of all people should understand since you had so many problems with your Evo. Imagine having all those problems "under" warranty and not getting covered.

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