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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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i have some stuff for sale and would like to sell it locally, here is a thread for wheels and tires https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...10#post4587110
i also have an 2005 VIII turbo for sale it was used for 11000 miles and has a 10.5 hotside from a 2006 mr that has been used for 3000 miles. i will sell you the combo for $300 obo i will include a stock o2 housing too or will sell it seperately.

i also have some stock cams that i want to sell so give me an offer

i also have a lot of stock parts, pm me if you need anything and i will give you a price

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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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i have some stuff for sale and would like to sell it locally, here is a thread for wheels and tires https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...10#post4587110
i also have an 2005 VIII turbo for sale it was used for 11000 miles and has a 10.5 hotside from a 2006 mr that has been used for 3000 miles. i will sell you the combo for $300 obo with the stock o2 housing also

i also have a lot of stock parts, pm me if you need anything and i will give you a price
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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sorry for the repost

the track day rocked today, it took me like 3 hours to clean out my car! cant wait to get back out there.. if anyone locally has some silver side skirts that they want to get rid of let me know i need a set
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Have any of you ever seen the Vette from Pfadt Racing run at MMP?
Yup, today. What about it?
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by eficker
Yup, today. What about it?
He ran again today? Damn, he gets around in that Vette, hah. I was asking, because Aaron drove the Vette down here at my home track (PMI) during last weekend's NASA-RM event. He was the fastest car of the event as far as I could tell. He was impressed with my times relative to his but said he was not impressed with the times of 3 gutted/caged race Evos that he sees at MMP, so I'm trying to get an idea of the relative differences.
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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All the fast Evo guys aren't in gutted/caged ones
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
All the fast Evo guys aren't in gutted/caged ones
i'd say that the 3 competitions associates evo's are pretty fast when looking at them... (black one white one with wing and white rs) i love those three cars
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by evobeatsti
i'd say that the 3 competitions associates evo's are pretty fast when looking at them... (black one white one with wing and white rs) i love those three cars
Dude Vesko F.ucking owns yo there just not all magazine and popular happy I've got more engine mods then those guys on some of the evo's because of there class the drive in, its driver modification FTMFW.....competition associates pwn

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
All the fast Evo guys aren't in gutted/caged ones
That's what I'm trying to find out. Who are the fast ones?

If those 3 that we're talking about are the ones in the new STC series, then they should be pretty damn fast. They also appear to have beaten Vesko handily according to the results, although his fastest lap in quals was about a second faster. I'm only a one-lap wonder anyway (time trials), so I mainly look at the lap times.

Regardless, I'm guessing Aaron Pfadt didn't realize that although they are full-race Evos, they are restricted to certain moderate hp/weight limitations. I haven't been able to find the restrictions other than something about a 38mm inlet, so I'm not sure how it works. In NASA TTS, I'm limited to 8.7:1 weight/hp ratio, which comes out to 3350lbs/385whp for me.

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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I'm not too familiar with the times run by the non-race EVOs (not gutter or cages). I believe eFicker ran a low 1:41 on the west track during a PDX/Lapping Day, but I'm sure he'll chime in and hopefully know what most of the others run as well.

Yesterday Vesko (black Competition Associates EVO) ran a 1:40 on the east track, that was a bit slower than he ran in the same car at GT Live, but the summer heat slows the cars down and so did the recent rain that washed all the rubber off the track. That 1:40 happens to be about 2 seconds faster than that Vette could muster.

If I remember correctly, that black EVO is running a 2.3 liter stroker and a GT35 turbo and weighs about 2900 pound with driver. And last I heard it was putting down over 500 hp, but that may have changed. I'm also not sure what tires he was running yesterday, whatever good rubber is on hand seems to make its way on to the car's 9.5"-10" wide wheels.

The two white Competition Associates EVOs are almost identical, winged version has a bit more down force. They also weigh around or even under 2900 lb. with driver. They should be making 350+ hp using a FickerFlash, but he would be able to tell you for sure. They both usually run full slicks and also run a 9.5"-10" wide wheel. Their 1:42 lap east track times were very similar to those of the Vette yesterday, and they run in the 1:39s on the west. The #88 EVO actually passed the Vette, but gave him back second place later in the race.

The Stellen EVOs (copper and black) that run in the STC weigh in at 3100 pounds with driver. The STC's 38 mm restrictor limits power to approximately 350 hp at the crank. But without restrictors they should put down a similar 330-350 hp to the ground. They only run 265-275 DOTs on 9.5" wide wheels. Without restrictor they run 1:42s on the east track and 1:39s on the west. The restrictors only seem to effect their times about 1-1.5 seconds on either side. They just finished another all black EVO with similar specs and lap times, it's currently for sale at $27,000.

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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So, the Stellen Evos that weigh 200lbs more are running the same lap times as the 2 weaker CA Evos (without the restrictor) and Vesko's 500hp Evo? Are you sure you're getting the numbers right?

Anyway, not sure about what occurred yesterday, but Aaron said he handles the gutted/caged Evos (dunno if that's CA or Stellen) with ease, so it would appear that he's significantly faster than some of the ones mentioned above - just not sure which. Or maybe he was faster in the past and now those Evos are faster? The times they put down on the West course on the STC website show 1:43-1:44s during qualifying, not 1:41s (assuming 1:39s + 2-sec using the restrictor).

For reference, my Evo is 3120 w/driver and 1/4 tank of gas, and I put down 325whp at this altitude. I have not run at MMP yet, though, so the only comparison I have is that Aaron ran a 1:38.8 best lap over 2 days at PMI, and my best lap was 1:39.6.

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
So, the Stellen Evos that weigh 200lbs more are running the same lap times as the 2 weaker CA Evos (without the restrictor) and Vesko's 500hp Evo? Are you sure you're getting the numbers right?Like I said, unrestricted, Vesko driving that black EVO runs 2-3 seconds faster than the others. When restricted, they all run around 1 second of each other. But yes, the Stellen EVOs and the two white CA EVO have been very competitive when all were not running restrictors.

Anyway, not sure about what occurred yesterday, but Aaron said he handles the gutted/caged Evos (dunno if that's CA or Stellen) with ease, so it would appear that he's significantly faster than some of the ones mentioned above - just not sure which. Or maybe he was faster in the past and now those Evos are faster? The times they put down on the West course on the STC website show 1:43-1:44s during qualifying, not 1:41s (assuming 1:39s + 2-sec using the restrictor).Yes, all competitors have progressively gotten faster throughout the season. Look at the June results on the STC site, or goto www.mylaps.com for all the MPRA results.
I hope that helped...

It looks like the only time that guy with the Vette ran all the EVOs before was in April. All the EVOs were restricted during that event, and yes he got Vesko by about 2 seconds. I'll gladly let the Vette driver borrow a 38mm restrictor to demonstrate his driving prowess and chassis setup while running equal power levels.

Also, I guess Vesko actually beat the Vette's best time by around 6 seconds yesterday. And the #88 got him by around 3 seconds. Too bad Jeff didn't get him during the race. mylaps.com

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Yeah, when I looked, there were no June results yet.

As for the Vesko clarification, I got confused between East and West.

Vesko was 3 seconds faster on his fastest lap of the event vs Pfadt, and 88 was just slightly faster. The one you're referring to is the qualifying round, but if you look at the practice round and the race, you'll see the rest of the data. Pfadt only lost by 5 seconds total, and he was 17 seconds ahead of the next fastest car.

As for sheer lap times, this is what I see:

Vesko - 1:40.429 (Quals) and won the race with what looks like easy laps (1:42s)
Jeff Morgan #88 - 1:42.036 (Practice #2) and didn't finish the race
Jeff Miller #77 - 1:42.928 (Race) and finished 6th in the race
Aaron Pfadt #190 - 1:43.312 (Practice #1) and finished 2nd in the race

So, I guess this wasn't an STC race, because Vesko's car wouldn't be legal would it? Or, is he legal with his build with the restrictor in place? Anyway, in this mode, it's much faster than all the other cars. Jeff in car #88 is the next fastest by a decent margin, at least for this weekend. I assume that's one of the Evos. Then, Jeff Miller was nowhere near that fast in practice/quals, but he snapped off a lap faster than any by Pfadt. Is #77 an Evo, too? Then, Pfadt was the 4th quickest in terms of lap times, but he pretty easily took 2nd in the race, so he did better overall.

I was a good bit quicker than Pfadt was on all of his sessions except one where he busted out that 1:38.8, so I don't know what was different about that one session, but he was clearly faster than I was. Looks like I'd be way behind Vesko and somewhat close to #88/#77, but not equal.

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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biggie, the white ca evo without aero is almost stock power wise, he has an open element filter and shorter ic pipes with a custom exhaust but those mods are just for weight reduction the white ca evo with aero also has additional weight reduction on the other one with plexy windows and cf hood and trunk and some other things plus it has a lot of other engine stuff and is pretty much maxed out for stock turbo (cams ect ect) and all 3 of them run 100 octane
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by evobeatsti
biggie, the white ca evo without aero is almost stock power wise, he has an open element filter and shorter ic pipes with a custom exhaust but those mods are just for weight reduction the white ca evo with aero also has additional weight reduction on the other one with plexy windows and cf hood and trunk and some other things plus it has a lot of other engine stuff and is pretty much maxed out for stock turbo (cams ect ect) and all 3 of them run 100 octane
It sounds like Seth (#2 white CA EVO without aero) is running about the same basic mods as the Stellen guys, intake, exhaust and IC piping, etc. Jeff (#88 white CA EVO with aero) is getting faster every event. The extra work being put into Jeff's car explains some of that, but I'd say he's starting to get more comfortable racing an EVO instead of a Porsche.

My friend, and autox champ, Billy Brooks has himself a nicely moddes EVO, but getting him to door to door race the bad boy has been an uphill battle. In theory that car should fall somewhere between the Black CA Stroker and the rest of the MMP EVOs. If he and a few of the other local EVO owners that track their cars on a regular basis all throw in cages, MMP will be completely overrun by 4G63s! It almost makes me want to sell my garage full of S13 parts and buy that car for Stellen. Then I'd be one of the cool kids.



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