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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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It's great to hear that there is such a nice contingency of Evos rocking out up there at MMP. I'm usually the ONLY Evo on track at my local events, and those are usually noobs with weak times. I'm the furthest along, yet I'm nowhere near wheel-to-wheel racing. Sounds like the SLC Evos really got it going on.

That must be why there's such a low Evo turnout at the upcoming SCCA ProSolo (autox). Just a few of us scrubs who don't do real racing.
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon

I was a good bit quicker than Pfadt was on all of his sessions except one where he busted out that 1:38.8, so I don't know what was different about that one session, but he was clearly faster than I was. Looks like I'd be way behind Vesko and somewhat close to #88/#77, but not equal.
I'm sure you'd whoop all their asses when it comes to bench racing though
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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Doubt it - I do my talking on the track. Just trying to get a sense of where those cars are, since we never run on the same track.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
He ran again today? Damn, he gets around in that Vette, hah. I was asking, because Aaron drove the Vette down here at my home track (PMI) during last weekend's NASA-RM event. He was the fastest car of the event as far as I could tell. He was impressed with my times relative to his but said he was not impressed with the times of 3 gutted/caged race Evos that he sees at MMP, so I'm trying to get an idea of the relative differences.
He should be impressed with them by now, since he was battling one for position most of the race (Jeff), and the other was half a track ahead of him (Vesko).

Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Doubt it - I do my talking on the track. Just trying to get a sense of where those cars are, since we never run on the same track.
With all this talk of all the Evos at MMP this weekend, I thought there would be a lot of misinformation, but I have to say that its all been pretty accurate.

That Vette is fast, no doubt. Jeff Morgan flat spotted a tire in battle with him and subsequently was unable to finish. Vesko was running parade laps by turn three of the first lap, so I wouldn't judge much by his times. I can tell you this: anyone who thinks they will even be in the ballpark with him is sadly mistaken.

As for hp on the evos out this weekend, I can't say numbers, but they were all on very low boost. The black evo was not making much more than a stock setup, on last season's hoosiers (corded).

The points shown in STC are inaccurate since only the stellen guys have raced in all the points races, so naturally they will show the most points.

As far as the non-aero RS, it is bascially stock with a cage and a setup.

Warr- Come out and lets do some racing. I'd even settle for the fastest lap. Just for fun. Quit the cone-bashing already!
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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why don't the local guys make some more hp for road racing??? just curious seems like they have plenty of money to do it??
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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The series regulations I think is what is causing most of that. But perhaps with the long-term races and such it is more reliable and easier to do a 2500 lb Evo with 300 whp than it is to do a 3300 lb Evo with 600 whp. Plus, with the less prepared cars a lot of horsepower can hurt more than help. R-Compounds and semi-track brakes with over 350 whp are going to have a harder time, from driving both Riley and Jeremy's cars on track... With some serious hardcore brakes and race slicks it becomes a different story.

Remember that HP doesn't count for all that much on the track unless you can put it down, its how our cars are faster than 911 Turbos, GT3s and ZO6s when they all only have street tires on.... They pull away like crazy in the straight, but that counts for a very small fraction of total track time, and when I can take a corner at 100 when the ZO6 is taking it at 75, that's a big difference.

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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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if you have full slicks you could make 600whp and not break the tires loose from 2nd to 5th gears but i guess i just don't get it
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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it comes back to reliability, 600 hp cars break a lot more than 300 hp cars. When you are running your car hard for 30-60 min at time a high hp is going to break more often, and in reality you would never use all that hp out there.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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I'm putting my car out there as a feeler to see what people would be willing to pay for it. If I can't get a decent offer I will just keep the car. PM me if interested in the car as a whole as I rarely look at the Utah forums.

2004 Red Evo RS:

26.5k miles

Mods:

- Buschur deluxe front mount intercooler
- XS Engineering Intercooler piping with small battery
- RNR turbo back exhaust with test pipe and high flow cat (test pipe is on)
- RNR O2 housing
- FP Green turbo with ported turbine housing and upgraded wastegate
- Gsc 280 cams
- FIC 750cc fuel injectors
- Defi 60mm BF Imperial amber gauges with triple in-dash pod with Defi Link Control unit II (boost, egt, oil pressure)
- Walbro 255lph fuel pump
- Buschur ported stock exhaust manifold (non-coated)
- Stock wheels painted black which will include brand new Falked Azenis RT-615's mounted when I finally receive them.
- Swift sport lowering springs
- Greddy counterweight shift nob.
- ATS Twin disk carbon clutch
- Blacked out headlights
- Evo 7 style taillights
- Apexi turbo timer
- AEM Uego wideband gauge with steering wheel pod.
- Turbosmart diverter valve and JDM MR/Evo IX dv included
- SS clutch line
- 5% 3M tint on all windows (excluding windshield)

Stock Parts Included:

- Stock turbo with exhaust manifold
- Stock exhaust
- Stock intercooler with piping
- Stock battery
- Stock springs
- Front license plate bracket
- Stock camshafts



Car has been meticulously maintained with oil changes every 2-3k miles. Transmission fluid has been changed 4 times since I got the car at ~12k miles. Transfer case has been changed 3 times always with Mitsubishi Diaqueen LSD Gear Oil.

There are a few minor issues with the car. The clutch causes a p0300 code which I have just gotten used to as part of owning a modified car. This code will pop up occasionally on the freeway when just cruising at around 80 mph. Last issue is that the idle is rough when the a/c is turned on due to the cams. This could also be fixed with some more tuning.

The car was tuned by Eric (eficker) on the dyno and made 350whp on pump gas.
I have ran the car at rmr around 10 times with my best time being a 12.55 at 110mph on the current setup.








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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by silverofs
if you have full slicks you could make 600whp and not break the tires loose from 2nd to 5th gears but i guess i just don't get it
Without some serious skill, more hp usually ends up being slower, more maintanace, and more bad-habit forming.

I feel my car has almost too much power for my skill level as it is.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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my car has way too much hp for my braking and driving capability's but it is sooo much fun. does anyone for one reason or the other have a passenger side skirt that they want to get rid of preferably a silver one?? i need one and mitsu is asking $540 for a new one unpainted!! rediculous
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Brembo350z
- Turbo XS Intercooler piping with small battery
Might want to double check that since TurboXS doesn't offer a pipe kit or a small battery.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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is there any disadvantage to running a spacer on a street wheel? i have a 25mm spacer for my track wheels (17x9.5 nt03+m) and when i threw my street wheels back on (volk ce28 17x8.5 +30) i left the spacer on and it looks sick. will running with a spacer all the time cause extra stress or wear or have any negative side effects on daily driving?? thanks
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bbbwrx
Might want to double check that since TurboXS doesn't offer a pipe kit or a small battery.
http://www.xs-engineering.com/xsstor...idproduct=4369

Sorry, that would be xs engineering
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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2nd thru 5th might not break loose in a straight line when going is all they're using their friction for... But the famed Friction Circle is much more than that... You have traction used for braking, acceleration, and cornering. I think someone here can tell you about using all of the friction circle for cornering and then trying to use a lot of it for braking at the same time.

It comes back to my examples, I can hit the gas WOT before an Apex while a Corvette or other higher hp car has to wait untill after or even until they're going straight again to hit the gas fully.



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