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Old Jan 12, 2006, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chronohunter
There is some "pulling" involved But I stick 100% with my statement that a custom tuned product will beat an off the shelf product (no matter how good) every time. Make no mistake I agree Motons are better shocks (hell the best), I've raced and tested on them many times but for the price (plus the cost of testing and revalving to get them optimized), good lord. Here we have very high quality shocks (though not as high as Motons...) matched to a complete suspension system (that costs well under the price of the Motons themselves). Hell yes they are better/faster than "off the shelf" Motons. If someone want to bring a Moton equiped car along and run it against a Vishnu equipped car I would welcome it, you can't buy advertising like that
I have a Moton equiped Evo, I'm game!

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Old Jan 12, 2006, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Silencer
I have a Moton equiped Evo, I'm game!

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baller status or what
Old Jan 12, 2006, 08:04 PM
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Not sure what you have against JIC, but FLT-A2's are running great for me. A friend of mine runs them as well except his are valved by John Mueller...working very well. Here is his info on the JIC:

http://roadraceengineering.com/jicinfo.htm

Cheers!
Old Jan 12, 2006, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Silencer
I have a Moton equiped Evo, I'm game!

Dave
Pick a track between Michigan and Colorado
Old Jan 12, 2006, 09:33 PM
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I want in too......What track, and when?
Old Jan 13, 2006, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Stop&TurnFreak
I want in too......What track, and when?
no response yet, any suggestions? it looks like our cars would be a good match power wise except you have an intercooler for the longer runs
Old Jan 13, 2006, 06:01 PM
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Mid Ohio September NASA Time Trial Nationals TTU(nlimited) Class. No BI**tch**ing from the East Coast EVO's this time... we are coming MORE than 1/2 way..see you there.
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Originally Posted by chronohunter
Pick a track between Michigan and Colorado
How do you expect to make a fair comparison given the differences between cars (tires included)? Drivers? Besides, it will still be at least 4 months away before the tracks open.

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Old Jan 13, 2006, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by robi
Mid Ohio September NASA Time Trial Nationals TTU(nlimited) Class. No BI**tch**ing from the East Coast EVO's this time... we are coming MORE than 1/2 way..see you there.

sounds good but a little late, where could we go earlier? Pueblo, near me, is open all winter. I know the Cali tracks are open but too far for all but Robi.
Old Jan 13, 2006, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chronohunter
sounds good but a little late, where could we go earlier? Pueblo, near me, is open all winter. I know the Cali tracks are open but too far for all but Robi.
So you giving everyone who shows up a free and detailed driving clinic with personalized in car instruction to "even the (your home field) playing field" (at least a little?) :-0
Old Jan 13, 2006, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Silencer
How do you expect to make a fair comparison given the differences between cars (tires included)? Drivers? Besides, it will still be at least 4 months away before the tracks open.

Dave
we'd have to trade cars on the same track and be honest! It wouldbe more subjective vs. just lap times and a drive down a bumpy road would be mandatory to get the whole story My car is a stock turbo pump gas only full weight car with a cat but it is pretty strong given that. It runs quite a bit quicker than a T2 car on my RA1s (more like GT-2 or T-1). We could take any differences into account (your car may be stronger?). You can come out here and we can just do the testing on our shock dyno(?) and then go to a track (for example). It would just be fun to get out on the track with some other EVO's

or we could just settle it internet racing

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Old Jan 13, 2006, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by robi
So you giving everyone who shows up a free and detailed driving clinic with personalized in car instruction to "even the (your home field) playing field" (at least a little?) :-0
for you Robi...anything My EVO has never been to Pueblo though, the track that I did all the testing on is now permanently closed . Do you want to dyno your DMS's, we've done several sets of DMS 50s but all from Subaru Rally cars so far.

I'll come out to any track BTW (within reason), I'm geographically in the middle though

EDIT: Mark from DMS informed me that we are not supposed to re-valve DMSs it must be done by them.

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shock dyno from DMS

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Old Jan 13, 2006, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by robi
shock dyno from DMS
Thanks Robi, I'll see if I can get the other DMS dyno runs...
Old Jan 13, 2006, 11:36 PM
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Dear Suspension Guru's:

Bring all your trash talking and internet banter to Utah and settle it on a track that nobody has driven yet.

Then I can watch.


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