I've allready pm'd you my offer and it still stands. I need the harness in a hurry for my emanage/nitrous setup in April. I don't plan on using N2O on my RA after that. It will end up on my Spitfire when I get a RB20 installed in it along with the emanage. That will leave me with a harness for my RA and nothing but your piggyback to use it with... I'm not spending 250 on a safc to up my duty cycle! I can add a $20 ebay diode and do that. I'm pretty sure that after feeling an extra 75hp with the nitrous I won't be happy with the stock ecu and I'm not going turbo untill it's closer to 2k for it (ie not for awhile!). My only hp fix is going to be the piggyback which you have the sole option on. Look at it from your avg. Joe's POV: I can either plug this in here and here and gain hp? OR I have to cut and splice how many freakin' wires to gain 15-20whp?!? Which one do you think is more appealing to the masses? I think you would see a dramatic increase in sales to the point where your unit price on both pieces would be lower on your end therefore increasing your overall profits and increasing your market share in the sport compact market.

That and I really really really want one. Pretty please? With carbon fiber sprinkles on top?

Ease of intstallation is everything. $100 added to your piggy back would likely increase sales by 30-40% overall. My initial apraisal of the PB was that nobody would cut their harness for it except for the hardcore "I want every last pony I can get" crowd. Make it plug n play and then it's a money not a difficulty issue. People trade money for conv. everyday af fast food restaraunts after all.

 

that's funny, considering i've spent more money on mods than i have for car payments and insurance combined. sorry but just because we don't buy something right away doesn't mean we won't, give us a break, some of us are poor.LOL

 

you guys obviously OVERestimated the demand (it's easy to say 'yes i am in' on a forum, but when it comes time to actually doing it and putting up the money, you get less and less people) and UNDERestmated the cost..

even if they managed to get all the connectors for let's say a reasonable sum of $50-$60, it would still need labour charges to put the freaking thing together. if you ever crimp connectors onto 100-150 wire ends (i am not sure the exact number) and put them in the right spot on those harnesses, you know it's going to take at least a few hours.. at $100 they are losing money.

if you guys are serious about it and serious about buying the RRM, it's time to put up or shut up (jokingly) .. buy the piggyback conditional on them getting you a harness at $150 extra.

-joe

 

That's almost as insulting as saying "well you guys don't have the ability to do a harness anyway, or you would have posted a price by now"

As a vendor for aftermarket performance parts for the Lancer, you were approached with a proposal "can you make part Y for X dollars" - simple. That is your business right? All we've wanted is an answer! No more, no less, and certainly no hassles. It has been awhile now though, but still no one has gotten on to give your company a hard time - people have just patiently waiting for an answer to that simple proposal. But then you feel the need to make a crack like that above, even still without GIVING AN ACTUAL PRICE??? If you can do it for that price, just say so! Or, if not, again...just say so! And maybe what price you COULD do it for IF you want to get involved in making such a product! And again, no hard feelings either way - just want to know the answer!

 

You guys are nuts, the harness kit at most shouldn't cost us more than 50 bucks and they will still make a ton! These vendors , shops, tuners, etc. read these threads and forums and you guys and gals come up with prices before the product is even developed and know they are going to get this done as cheaply as they can and sock it to ya for a minimum of $100. that u said you would already pay and some of you guys would pay as much as $200.
No thanks, I'll make my own quick connect harness.

 

I was actually insulted by that too. Kinda like if I was in an expensive high sclass store but I wasn't dressed like the normal people that shop there. So the salesman writes me off and doesn't give me the same service. Come to find out I'm a millionaire and he probably coulda had one of his biggest sales ever.

 

Ya it's not very good customer service to be slagging the customers, you're not doing so good representing RRM Viciouz.

 

SOrry, didn't mean it to insult anyone, its just I already brought up the idea long ago with Rob and he said would be good, but people wont pay an extra X dollars on somethign that is alreayd high priced

 

So you've been jerking us around all this time?!?!?!? Is RRM going to make it or not? IF so how much? Other than that I really don't give a **** anymore.

 

Sorry guys don't get all pissed off, I did bring this up with Rob at one point, he said there needs to be a lot more interst, y don't u guys start forming a list of peopel who want to buy a RRM PB with a Harness, cuz i do want to make one too..

 

Yeah maybe we can have a 3month long thread like the TG eyelid guys! Yeah!!!! That would be sooooo much fun and then at the very end..... You can say you aint gonna make it anyways......

 

well how about this, you make ONE. that'll give you a basic idea what all is needed and involed(price and labor wise) then you can quote a closer price than "100-200 more" and we'll do a vote and a list before you make any more than that. i figure making one in the name of "product research and development" wouldn't be too hard for you guys. i'll be upfront with you,without a harness there is zero chance i'm buying a PB. as i have NO interest in soldering it to my cars ecu.

 

thing is we don't get great deals in making harness's actually we have to find someone, and for them to only make 1 harness will cost us a lot, if we bought in bulk say 100, or even 50 the price drops dramatically, thats y i ask for a list first, and i'll run it through Rob, trust me guys, I would have bought a piggyback back in the day when I had my warranty only if there was a quick connect harness, I am all for this, it just up to rob for final decisions

 

Before we form a list of people who are definitely interested we need to get a rough price. Surely there's a way you guys can give us a pretty close price without actually making any harnesses. Once we have that number, it'll be easier to figure out if there's enough interest or not.

 

alright alright alright... i'll talk to rob on monday and see what he is willing to do, after all he makes all the business decisions