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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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oh, what? c'mon. that's silly.
additionally, unless you show prove, your claim is hearsay.
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cyanide
I'm waiting on someone else to show theirs because what I have to show isn't pretty...
your choice I suppose. I'm sure a lot would be interested in those results though, good or bad. No one should be laughing either since most of us haven't ponied up any cash for the reflash or even ***** to do it.

I give you credit for wanting to try it out.

I also give credit to anyone that can reflash an ecu with modest results. If it was easy everyone would be doing it.
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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What is it that is so bad ??? I mean this is the whole point of the forum , to help people..
Post up the dyno , A/f etc. And or what the bad thing is
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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I see in a previous post "ECU Swap on 4G69: '05 to '04" that Cyanide has "fried my OEM ECU because of a bad connection I did on an ECU relay", and also says the replacement ECU from a different year has caused the car to behave abnormally in many operating scenarios.

?!?

Maybe his claimed lack of performance has nowt to do with a Works or Hackish reflash.

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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 05:52 AM
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Its new technology and has to be tried and tested. Look at my car the reflash is running my turbo just perfectly. I am sure that there are some differences in the years. He will get it sorted out and has great customer satisfaction. Like anthing new will take some time to perfect.
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 06:52 AM
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The Works reflash is not out yet. I will get my car to the dyno very soon. I think it's pretty awesome that there's alot of chatter on the reflash. As one of the first people to publicly get it I like to consider myself a pioneer. In the next few weeks or so I will pony up the cash and dyno it, after some maintenance. We should all hold off on speculations and assumptions until we get more dyno numbers from more members. As Ott Ralliart says this is very new technology and yes there's bound to be hiccups. Think of it as a scientific experiment, we need a "similar cluster of data points" to consider that a valid result, but I will not denounce cyanide's results as well. He's the only one to date that had the mettle to dyno his whip.

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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by OttRalliart05
Its new technology and has to be tried and tested. Look at my car the reflash is running my turbo just perfectly. I am sure that there are some differences in the years. He will get it sorted out and has great customer satisfaction. Like anthing new will take some time to perfect.
The turbo reflash has been tested to work properly everywhere...

This thread talks about the NA reflash, on which not many dyno graphs or video have popped up...
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lanzerralliart
What is it that is so bad ??? I mean this is the whole point of the forum , to help people..
Post up the dyno , A/f etc. And or what the bad thing is

Now, I know this is not a vendor post, thread or whatever, but there is a forum rule I'm abiding to until others can come up with something close to my results.

The fact is that, some have bought the NA reflash, but almost none have shown dyno runs. I've searched for dyno graphs, but all I could find was for 1 RA and 1 Galant, both of which were posted by the creators and developers of the Reflash.

http://www.mitsubishicarclubcanada.c...ead.php?t=1769

http://www.thegalantcenter.net/showthread.php?t=39851

Almost everybody else have just done some "butt dyno'ing" and tell us how great it feels. When I ran it for the first time, a difference could be felt, but it was all for the higher rev limiter, nothing else.

If I were to post my results, then I would be the first one unrelated to the creators to post them (but correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't found any others). And, since I don't gain anything from showing them, but have already "LOST" $450 (+ $200 for a spare ecu), I have no need to post them (yet)...

You may interpret this post as you like...
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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What a waste of time...
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RalliartN
What a waste of time...
Yep...

Now everybody's anxious for the results, and no one else comes out with them... Or at least saying they also have them...
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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I talked to Hackish today about this issue. Before he puts the RIPP SC kit my so he can establish a SC tune we will convert my car back with a SRI and cat back exhaust, then do a NA reflash video both results. Not sure when this is going to happen as I wont be in town for a few weeks and he will get on this as soon as I get back.

Not sure why there is a difference but I am sure he will get to the bottom of it.
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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I looked at the dyno sheets. The AFR did as it was supposed to. Without having tested on their fuel in PR it's pretty hard to say what the results would be. You also have to run the ECU for a while before it's going to be good to dyno - the reason is that the timing map will start out in exactly the same place as stock and it will gradually advance to the max values so long as no knock is heard. I used a similar approach on the Mazda 3. Every pass we did on the dyno showed a few more hp. First pass put the same numbers down but the 5th pass it was up by 12whp.

I said that I'd be more than happy to take the ECU back and see if the timing adjustments just got missed but he didn't want to send it back. All I can do is wait for a local guy who dyno'd it to get the reflasher and read his map out.

-Michael
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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hey guys im kinda new to the reflash idea im more of a piggy guy cause its re-programable at my will. But i was wondering if you could reflash the rev limiter up to 7000rpm...but leave everything else stock so i could continue to use the piggy?
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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Sure. Why not get a proper reflash done then take your piggyback, zero out all it's settings and go from there? The more percent you go away from the stock computer's settings the worse it fights you.

-Michael
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hackish
I looked at the dyno sheets. The AFR did as it was supposed to. Without having tested on their fuel in PR it's pretty hard to say what the results would be. You also have to run the ECU for a while before it's going to be good to dyno - the reason is that the timing map will start out in exactly the same place as stock and it will gradually advance to the max values so long as no knock is heard. I used a similar approach on the Mazda 3. Every pass we did on the dyno showed a few more hp. First pass put the same numbers down but the 5th pass it was up by 12whp.

I said that I'd be more than happy to take the ECU back and see if the timing adjustments just got missed but he didn't want to send it back. All I can do is wait for a local guy who dyno'd it to get the reflasher and read his map out.

-Michael
I sent 2 emails afterwards... No response. Like I told you before, if you have doubt as to whether what you did was right or wrong, then I shouldn't be the one to pay for mailing it back when I know that it'll take close to 2 months for me to get it back, as it did the first time. If you want me to send the ecu for something YOU think is not right, then you pay for shipping. I'm not spending one more cent. All the dyno graphs I found were done by YOUR testing, so until I see someone else's (an unbiased individual, far away from you), I'm standing my ground...
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