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Old May 19, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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I would put my money on openport2.0 cables supporting RalliArt long before this gets off the ground. where are the reflashing Ralliart tools for the community? there are none. this seems very closed box like ecutek. Send your ecu to them, haha, why can't tuners do this? its because he probably opens the case up and hooks wires into your ecu.. I would rather plug into the OBDII port and reprogram like ecuflash, evoscan, or ecuedit, much safer.
One thing I do know hack can and has been reflashing through the obdII for a few weeks now. Ask me how I know...lol...he has been using my car a test mule, it has been put back to stock in order to test the NA tune and then the RIPP sc kit is going on to be tuned with what you can call a "electronics" upgrade then the turbo at 7psi is going back on. There is a car in from NY that has a fully built motor that is pushing 14psi, I cant wait to see the numbers on that....ya I am letting the cat out of the bag but I see what is going on there....

This ecu is very different that others I have seen. The calculations are not typical. Plus I have seen some of the definitions on open ecu and personally I would not trust the "average" enthusiast with my car. There are so many other variances that make this ecu work I am lost trying to figure it all out....

So lets say they do come out with a system that supports the RA ecu...from what I have seen I will send my ecu to someone that has cracked it disassembled it, tuned it and wrote code to it over what I think my personal abilities are...plus if I make a mistake I am screwed....sorry I am not taking that chance....
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Old May 20, 2010 | 07:20 AM
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qcf, qcf + p = we want Hackish himself to speak up...usually threads like these go on like these for awhile and the story begins meandering more and more away form the truth.

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Old May 20, 2010 | 09:01 AM
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Well hackish isn't very easy to get a hold of not to mention he has several other forums/cars he tends to, that being said ottaralliart05 is his right hand man... So take it for what you will but he isn't talking bs.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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I am not taking Ott's word for granted as all. I have a very good understanding of what's taking place behind the scene, will not get into details. But you have to figure the entire RA community globally is probably breathing on this thread. I am very excited for fresh news as well.
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Old May 21, 2010 | 12:37 AM
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I like to flash my own ralliart ecus, the tuners can never spend the many weekends fine tuning that I go through. sounds like it is not CAN based. so I could possibly use my openport 1.3R or 1.3U cable for this?
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Old May 21, 2010 | 06:31 AM
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All I've been told is tactrix cable.....
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by evoscan
I would put my money on openport2.0 cables supporting RalliArt long before this gets off the ground. where are the reflashing Ralliart tools for the community? there are none. this seems very closed box like ecutek. Send your ecu to them, haha, why can't tuners do this? its because he probably opens the case up and hooks wires into your ecu.. I would rather plug into the OBDII port and reprogram like ecuflash, evoscan, or ecuedit, much safer.
I have been told that an end user interface is in development...

So, it's been over a month since my ecu arrived in Canada. Since they're asking for time, I've stopped emailing and decided to wait on an email from them... Without me having to ask.

As for conditions of my ecu... They ran a quick test reflashing my unit back to stock, but they didn't test it as it was. So, whatever was wrong with mine will never be known since they erased the first reflash they sent me.
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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Well at least your on the road to recovery..
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by evoscan
I would put my money on openport2.0 cables supporting RalliArt long before this gets off the ground. where are the reflashing Ralliart tools for the community? there are none. this seems very closed box like ecutek. Send your ecu to them, haha, why can't tuners do this? its because he probably opens the case up and hooks wires into your ecu.. I would rather plug into the OBDII port and reprogram like ecuflash, evoscan, or ecuedit, much safer.
Wow, hamish, you really surprise me. After asking me to provide you with the reflash protocol for these ECUs you come up with this? Hook up wires to the ECU? You know yourself I'm reflashing them through the kline with a tactrix cable.

Of course it's closed box stuff because I've invested 2 years of fulltime work into cracking this thing and decoding well over 1000 different parameters in the ROM. I'm not exactly going to give away an ECUFlash profile for free. Hundreds of hours of time have been put into completely re-writing many routines in the rom. Free doesn't put food on the table.

-Michael
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cyanide
I have been told that an end user interface is in development...

So, it's been over a month since my ecu arrived in Canada. Since they're asking for time, I've stopped emailing and decided to wait on an email from them... Without me having to ask.

As for conditions of my ecu... They ran a quick test reflashing my unit back to stock, but they didn't test it as it was. So, whatever was wrong with mine will never be known since they erased the first reflash they sent me.
No, I read the content of the ECU to verify it. I ran it on the dyno then I flashed it back to stock. Fresh out of the box it made 8-9 whp, flashed back to stock it lost the power. The only thing I can do is compile the best proof I can for you. It's taking some time because I'm getting a group of ECUs together with a video camera and a group of local guys.

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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 02:36 AM
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my apologies, it was a comment made before even knew who you were and what you are about. no hard feelings.
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hackish
decoding well over 1000 different parameters in the ROM.-Michael
Cool, would you be able to share just the table locations in the ROM, so that we can make an ECUFlash XML definition file for it?
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 07:57 AM
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What exactly is evoscan?
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by evoscan
Cool, would you be able to share just the table locations in the ROM, so that we can make an ECUFlash XML definition file for it?
I think there may be someone who will figure some of this out eventually. I will be licensing some software that's able to display and edit all of the tables. Of course if you want this you'll have to pay for it. No such thing as free lunch.

-Michael
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hackish
No, I read the content of the ECU to verify it. I ran it on the dyno then I flashed it back to stock. Fresh out of the box it made 8-9 whp, flashed back to stock it lost the power. The only thing I can do is compile the best proof I can for you. It's taking some time because I'm getting a group of ECUs together with a video camera and a group of local guys.

-Michael
This wasn't your first answer...

From the email you sent me:

Michael to me: May 24


We put the stock tune in the ECU and it made 123whp. We put the
reflash in and it put down 134. This was just a quick test. I am going
to get my video camera together and a series of ECUs on the same car
so we can fully document it. I don't know why the tests you did didn't
show any gains but they're sure showing gains here.

-Michael


I asked Brent the same thing and he didn't deny it. The answer I got was that, whether or not there was an issue, that is yet to be confirmed.

...Still waiting...
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