aestival

No, but unless someone has developed a fascinating new powertrain for incorporating electric motors, then hybrid does mean that you won't be able to have a manual, or TC-SST, or any properly geared transmission.

Still, hybrids are great if you want power with fuel economy in city driving -- personally I'd strongly recommend holding off on anything that doesn't come with lithium-based batteries, because those hybrids are coming soon and will be incredible for weight and options such as plug-in power (you can buy mod kits for the Prius, etc., but don't think any original equipment comes with lithium yet).

detroitmuscle

same boat as you, my friend

EzeE1o

not necessarily...the honda insight had a 5sp manual

aestival

Hah -- while you're right, the manual in the Insight was not very well combined with the electric motor, resulting in extremely fast drawdown of the batteries, and less peak torque than the corresponding CVT-electric combination. I guess I should have been clearer -- for an electric motor to work properly with a combustion-powered engine, manual transmission doesn't make any real sense, because electric motors provide continuous power that can't be readily combined with geared power.

ExcessLancer

MItsu has been dropping the ball since 2000... i expect them to over price this car...

migs647

iTrader: (19)

They did farely well with the Lancer GTS for 08. I expect it to be somewhat reasonable. We can only speculate. Mitsu is turning into a new era.

aestival

You're just feeling the pain of Mitsubishi being genuinely international -- most auto manufacturers give steep discounts to US drivers, on the backs of everyone else in the world. Mitsubishi is not built on as strong a US base, so they can afford to set fairer pricing everywhere (which works better for the other six billion of us).

[in the likely event you didn't know, from about 1990 to 2004 or so, prices in Canada were also steeply discounted, even more than in the US; they only stopped here because our dollar went up relative to the US]

ExcessLancer

MAybe so.

jmoz

I disagree, their goal is to compete with the WRX, and the EVO GSR starts at 33,000 it wouldn't make sense for the base to be just under 30, i would guess it to be mid 20's and come in just under 30 fully loaded.

sly

iTrader: (7)

Honest to god who is seriously thinking about buying a manual car esp the Ralliart ? i know how mitsu caters to both parties and it would be stupid not to release a 5speed. I definatly would go for the Ralliart if it was manual but if the price range is about 25k might as well get the evo x

TruboPower

I'm waiting for someone to come up with an original arguement, you can only repost the 'omg no manny tranny and omg the price' thing so much