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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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Makes you wonder if its worth buying this and doing the upgrades yourself versus buying the Evo X with equivalent options?
It would cost more to make the Ralliart an Evo X than it would to just buy the Evo.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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Makes you wonder if its worth buying this and doing the upgrades yourself versus buying the Evo X with equivalent options?It would cost more to make the Ralliart an Evo X than it would to just buy the Evo.


I agree makin a Ralliart into a evo cost an might as well buy a evo but with insurance it will be cheaper. also monthly payments will be cheaper. now with the extra money u can go any direction with the car u please. an doin that will not effect payments 2 go up. just my two cents
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Yes the Ralliart will be cheaper in terms of both outright cost and insurance but it won't perform like the evo without thousands dumped into it. It lacks the suspension (including S-AYC), the transmission modes, the brakes, the fenders (so you can run wide tires), etc.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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I agree. The BBK alone will be at least $2,000 and that right there throws you into Evo territory. Now you have to add wider tires. Its nice to see what can be done with the RA in the future though.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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true so if they have the money to pay for a Evo it would be Stupid to buy a Ralliart an mod it. but if all u have is Ralliart money its still a lot of car an then i can understand y after 3 yrs they dumped money into the car an beats stock evos. so pretty much get wat your wallet allows.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Something I've seen mentioned in a few articles but hasn't been elaborated on much by Mitsubishi, the Ralliart is supposedly 130 lbs lighter than the EVO MR. Just one *small* advantage of the Ralliart, especially with another ~20 lbs or so ready to be knocked off the stock exhaust system.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mors
Something I've seen mentioned in a few articles but hasn't been elaborated on much by Mitsubishi, the Ralliart is supposedly 130 lbs lighter than the EVO MR. Just one *small* advantage of the Ralliart, especially with another ~20 lbs or so ready to be knocked off the stock exhaust system.
The Ralliart is lighter, but the way I've heard it explained is that S-AWC is so good it negates any benefit the weight difference provides.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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True, the S-AWC with S-AYC is the major factor that allows the X to regularly reach staggering numbers for a stock car on the skidpad rating in magazine tests. The RA would need R-comps and a lot of suspension work to even reach 0.99g of the EVO. But once again the RA wasn't made for that. It's supposed to be a DD with oomph. If you want racing type numbers get the X.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Yes the Ralliart will be cheaper in terms of both outright cost and insurance but it won't perform like the evo without thousands dumped into it. It lacks the suspension (including S-AYC), the transmission modes, the brakes, the fenders (so you can run wide tires), etc.
the ralliart has the 'modes'

aka tarmac, gravel and whatever the 3rd one is. but it definately has it
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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the ralliart has the 'modes'

aka tarmac, gravel and whatever the 3rd one is. but it definately has it
That's ACD (part of S-AWC) not S-AYC (I think). Yes it has the three modes but it doesn't have the full programming found in the Evo X. Unless you want to swap the drivetrains, it's not possible to have it on the Ralliart.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
That's ACD (part of S-AWC) not S-AYC (I think). Yes it has the three modes but it doesn't have the full programming found in the Evo X. Unless you want to swap the drivetrains, it's not possible to have it on the Ralliart.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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Nick or Robi,

Sounds like you guys are having a blast with the Ralliart. I have a question regarding SST operation, and I would imagine you're qualified to answer it given your unique access.

Am I correct in my understanding that the transmission _does not_ ever upshift itself automatically when the gear selector is in manual mode? I am aware that it will automatically _downshift_ when decelerating for a stop.

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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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In order for it to upshift or downshift for you it has to be in auto (sports or normal) mode. If you are in full manual mode you have to do all the work.

You can also paddle shift when you are in auto mode ( call it semi manual ), this will put the car back to auto once you make a full stop ( ex. at a light )

Hope this wasn't too confusing.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by razkal
In order for it to upshift or downshift for you it has to be in auto (sports or normal) mode. If you are in full manual mode you have to do all the work.

You can also paddle shift when you are in auto mode ( call it semi manual ), this will put the car back to auto once you make a full stop ( ex. at a light )

Hope this wasn't too confusing.
You've driven a Ralliart already as well?
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Nope, it's same system that is on a US Evo X MR though.

That I have driven.
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