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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Spec B STI? Are you talking about the Spec B Legacy? Anyways, more on topic, I read an article on the Evo MR in the recent issue of EVO Magazine and they didn't talk too favorably about the transmission as far as long term enjoyment went.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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I was just being sarcastic. I fail at passing that on though it seems. There is really no comparing the two trans' was the point I was failing to make. I have read the same thing about the MR and RalliArt tranny's. They were talking about clutch plate issues in the trans with increased HP & torque. It's one of the few things keeping me on the edge and thinking about waiting till 2010 to see if a manny comes out.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Thats like saying the Legacy GT and the Spec.b STI have the same tranny. Not going to happen. But with the amount of memory those units acctually have it will only be a limited amount of time till some one cracks it,*Cough AMS, *Double Cough RRM. Problems are that I bet the materials used are cheaper in certain parts which is what kills me. You know the clutch plates will shread apart or worse. As long as it holds 300-350 horse before they need upgrading I should be good for a little while.
Stuff like this kills me. Pure speculation.

As discussed in other threads, the consensus is that these transmissions will support around 350 torque.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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It should be some indication of what it's capable of that Mitsubishi chose to use the standard 5-speed in the FQ-360 which has about 360 HP.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
It should be some indication of what it's capable of that Mitsubishi chose to use the standard 5-speed in the FQ-360 which has about 360 HP.
Last I heard, Mitsubishi was working to certify the SST for the FQ-360.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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I still find it odd that they chose not to use their precious baby on the FQ-360. It doesn't exactly instill confidence in the masses or the tuners out there.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
It should be some indication of what it's capable of that Mitsubishi chose to use the standard 5-speed in the FQ-360 which has about 360 HP.
and we all know to get 360 Bhp with the 4B11T is really not that hard or expensive. Bone stock Evo X's only with tune get dangerously
close to that number....
They make around /on dynojet/ 315 whp.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
I still find it odd that they chose not to use their precious baby on the FQ-360. It doesn't exactly instill confidence in the masses or the tuners out there.
Cause the masses still love slinging gears
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 11:56 AM
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and we all know to get 360 Bhp with the 4B11T is really not that hard or expensive. Bone stock Evo X's only with tune get dangerously
close to that number....
They make around /on dynojet/ 315 whp.
True, I'm simply saying that people want to follow in Mitsubishi's footsteps and keep the power relatively low (ie. below 360 HP) if they have the TC-SST transmission.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Cause the masses still love slinging gears
That could explain it since the FQ cars are exclusive to Britain and like much of Europe, Britain is dominated by manual transmissions. However, Mitsubishi does seem to be trying to push the TC-SST transmission since they decided to make it the only transmission option for the Ralliart.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
That could explain it since the FQ cars are exclusive to Britain and like much of Europe, Britain is dominated by manual transmissions. However, Mitsubishi does seem to be trying to push the TC-SST transmission since they decided to make it the only transmission option for the Ralliart.
Maybe they want to keep the power down due to chassis weakness and suspension and brake weakness. No sense in putting big power through a weak chassis that is not capable of handling it and causing a dangerous situation. The SST creates bigger hurdles.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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What do you mean "keep the power down"? The FQ series is renowned for having high power vehicles ranging from 300-400 HP (although the FQ-400 didn't last long). The problem isn't the chassis or the brakes, the problem is the transmission.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
What do you mean "keep the power down"? The FQ series is renowned for having high power vehicles ranging from 300-400 HP (although the FQ-400 didn't last long). The problem isn't the chassis or the brakes, the problem is the transmission.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
What do you mean "keep the power down"? The FQ series is renowned for having high power vehicles ranging from 300-400 HP (although the FQ-400 didn't last long). The problem isn't the chassis or the brakes, the problem is the transmission.
I mean with the SST on the RA. Not as good of chassis as the EVO/FQ.
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
However, Mitsubishi does seem to be trying to push the TC-SST transmission since they decided to make it the only transmission option for the Ralliart.
Mitsubishi probably invested a little $$$ in the TC-SST and considering that EVO X MR's aren't going to move mass amounts of the transmission the next best thing is to add them to a car with more mass appeal such as the Ralliart plus it's something their direct competition (Subaru) doesn't have. The DSG has been a success for VW/Audi and it's no coincidence that one of the most hyped vehicles in recent memory (GTR) has a dual clutch transmission as the only offering. While there will always be manual transmissions available, the future is dual clutch transmissions for better for for worse. IMO you have to actually give them an honest try before you denounce them because they are nothing like regular automatic transmissions. I have and for daily driving they just make more sense since you get the best of both worlds.
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