took me about a month to even locate one (when i was interested in WW RA and still side shopping around), then all of a sudden they got 1 in tarmac black. The dealerships by me have no RA's and I have yet to even see another...Dealer said I have only black one in New England?????? Don't know if it's true would like to see some others though im assuming their selling well considering there never on lots or did they not make a whole lot?

 

yeah the first run was limited production... kinda testing the waters i think. They didn't want to throw too many out there if people were going to buy them, but all the ones that end up at dealerships sell so thats probably going to point towards more released (obviously with the sportback RA coming out)

 

I didn't hear about this.
Is this legit?
More HP and possibibly wider fenders?

Hmm.

 

No. Currently it's not legit.

 

its not legit rite now this is just all a speculation

 

Interesting, I like the looks and awd of the RA, but just can't justify the price, weight, and narrow tires. A manual, price and weight reduction, plus a slight power boost and those nice lightweight wheels...I don't know I may have to hold off on the 2010 gencoupe or camaro V6....

 

If I'm not mistaking, the weight of the Gen coupe and camaro is not significantly lower than the R/A. It would be hard to drop the weight of the R/A without making significant changes, so I don't think that it's really a valid option.

Also, there are quite a few people who have either posted dealerships, or actually bought an R/A for right around $25k. And an R/A is faster than a 4cyl gen coupe, and a v6 camaro. And I'm not knocking any of those cars, because I like them all, I'm just trying to point out that price and performance of an R/A is pretty damn comparable to the other cars.

 

I was'nt saying that the gencoupe or camaro where lighter than the RA. I believe the coupe may be a little lighter, but the camaro is heavier. Just that the RA is fairly heavy for a 4 cyl. It looks like the gencoupe and camaro are good cars and have gotten excellent reviews so far. btw, I would be interested in the V6 GT gen, not the 4 cyl. Granted it stickers for around 29k with the auto trans, but it is completely loaded and people are getting them for around 26-27k already and a little less for the manual. The camaro is'nt quite as fast stock as it is heavy, but gets 29mpg on the highway and it sounds like that small V6 responds well to bolt-ons, as does the gencoupe. The new mustang gt looks interesting too since I can get the a-plan pricing, but for the premium model they can get pricey. I'm sure the RA can get decent gains from mods too, but with the gencoupe or stang at least, you get decent power and torque out of the box and don't "have" to mod right away.

 

I was really psyched on the camaro being based on the G8 platform, and as you said, all the reviews were positive. But then I read the first review of the SS on jalopnik, and it was pretty disappointing. The steering and front suspension was revised - which ruined what was such a great thing on the G8. The V6 is a pretty good deal (around $22k) but it's pretty slow. And power gains from bolt-ons for naturally aspirated engines tend to be much less impressive than that of turbo cars. I personally would never pay the price hyundai is asking for the V6 gen coupe - especially when you can get a Camaro SS or 370Z for around $29k, and a mustang with track pack for slightly less. The V6 gen is just NOT worth the money.

Also, the R/A gets very reasonable power gains from just a base tune, and simple bolt-ons with a tune give even more impressive results. In the end, there may be no replacement for displacement, but the costs of raising the power on the R/A will cost less than the others. But as you said, some just don't "need" it right away.

 

Since were way off topic with Camaro's, Hyundai's, and such, I thought I'd just toss in the fact that three companies are working on a supercharger for GM's high-feature 3.6L

Alloytech
Lund
D3

Any of which would work on the Camaro or G8 v6 with some tuning. Making a Supercharged Camaro v6 cost $26k ... price-wise a direct competitor for the RA and would give it a good run. Imagine that stoplight line-up!

 

It would give it a good run, and I would imagine that a direct injected V6 can take a good amount of boost without having to worry as much about pre-det. It's just too bad you have to get the SS in order to get the Brembos. I would just opt for the SS in the first place unless all I wanted was the camaro for it's looks.

 

I don't know, the Gencoupe GT comes pretty loaded for around 27k. You get leather heated seats, bluetooth, backup sensors, 18" wheels with tire-pressure monitoring, a kick-*** stereo system, keyless entry, smart key with push button start, HID, homelink, heated mirrors, auto temp control, LSD, sunroof, 6 speed manual, or 6 speed auto with paddle shifters for an extra 1.5k. The blue interior lighting looks pretty good too. If you go with the track model for a couple grand more, you get the 19" wheels, brembo's, a spoiler and tighter suspension with some extra bracing. For me the GT would be perfect as I don't intend on taking it to the track. btw, good luck getting an SS for 29k, they start out at 31k with no options or markups, which I'm sure they will have at the start. The base 370Z, maybe 30k if your lucky, but that looks like a pretty nice car too unless you think you may need back seats sometime.

 

The base Gen coupe V6 with A/T starts at around 26.5 not 29.

 

Correct, I was referring to the grand touring model (GT), not the base.

 

You cant compare the new Gen Coupe and V6 Camaro to the RA. They are all completely different cars with completely different competitors in the auto market. The RA is up against the WRX, mazdaspeed6, etc, not two coupes with RWD, one which is a muscle car and the other a korean little beast.