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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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Yes, every part will be available separate!!

I will give more details tomorrow!!!

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If you need an extra test gerbil to test on a customer car with the reward of a discounted exhaust let me know!! ahahaha....
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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what numbers should we expect with the turbo upgrade?
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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I think a trip down to York is in my future.
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 04:00 AM
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 05:22 AM
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Do you have any before and after pics with the Eibachs? Would you say there has been a noticeable different in handling with them?
Did you fit just srpings, or dampers aswell?
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 06:46 AM
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ok guys...

did some retuning last night with the RA... Here are the mods on the car at present:

CBRD EVO X Fmic
CBRD RA specific 3" Short ram Bell mouth intake
CBRD Custom Catback exhaust with 3" piping, Vband, and Quad Tips, resonator and muffler
CBRD Resonated Test pipe

Razorlab basemap, retuned by CBRD, with SST tweaks by Razorlab and Jon Drenas,.

STOCK IC pipes, Stock Inlet tube, Stock boost solenoid and pill, Stock manifold, turbo, downpipe, etc...

The highest uncorrected (non smoothed) numbers were 249whp/279 wtq at 19.5 psi...



I had to tweak the SST tables to keep the clutch packs from slipping at peak torque... but otherwise I tried to rescale the maf, to get the AFR close to what it was before... timing was not changed nor were boost tables or Mivec tables... (from before the catback and intake)..

Here are some overlays: (being added)



Today we are building our Ralliart Specific Front Mount Intercooler. The EVO X FMIC is just slightly too big, as it pushes down on the undertray bolts... which I wasnt happy with. I also feel it is slight overkill (its a BIG fmic).... so we are building another intercooler utilizing a Garrett Core that is slightly smaller (about 2" shorter run length, 1.5" shorter height, and .4" thinner)... still rated for 750 hp....

This should allow us to have a slightly better price point and still EASILY support 500whp... it will also be slightly lighter!

We are also doing Ralliart Specific Intercooler pipes today (our evo X Cold charge pipe is 2.75" which will create an issue if people want to run the bigger trans oil pans etc).... so this one will be 2.5"

I will post pics shortly and more details!

cheers

cb

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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Xorro
Do you have any before and after pics with the Eibachs? Would you say there has been a noticeable different in handling with them?
Did you fit just srpings, or dampers aswell?
I only did the eibach springs..

it was either just springs.. or go all out with something like a JRZ 2 way RS kit..... and I didn't want to put that much into a suspension...

This car is strictly for me to develop the platform with.... I got rid of the CBRD EVO X and picked this guy up....

We were going to acquire an MR... but.. I wanted to show the RA platform more love than it was getting as I think it has a very unique niche in this community!!

The ride quality is ok.. typical lowering spring feel, not too bouncy.... long term I'm not sure how the dampers will hold up. We are pursuing some OEM replacement dampers but its taking some work!

Cheers

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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jan_ralliart
what numbers should we expect with the turbo upgrade?
My goal for the full upgrade is apprx 320whp... 340-360 wtq......

The main goal was to create an upgrade for the STOCK turbo that allowed you to make slightly better than evo X OEM turbo power...

asking to make the power of a BBX lite or similar is just too out of the question, as the turbo housing is not big enough to allow us to fit compressor and turbine wheels of that size.

Obviously the expense of going with this upgrade will be much less than purchasing a used X turbo... manifold.. o2 housing... coolant/oil lines.. intake, relocate the battery...etc....

Cheers

cb
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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Bad @$$! Hrm, maybe the wife will be interested in a ralliart now....would be nice to have one sitting in the garage next to beaterX ....
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
My goal for the full upgrade is apprx 320whp... 340-360 wtq......
with 340 - 360 wtq, we will need to upgrade the clutch pack too?
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:41 AM
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E85 that sucka Chad!
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jan_ralliart
with 340 - 360 wtq, we will need to upgrade the clutch pack too?
From what I've read, the tranny can't handle anything past 300wtq.
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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[quote=CBRD;9001469]My goal for the full upgrade is apprx 320whp... 340-360 wtq......

The main goal was to create an upgrade for the STOCK turbo that allowed you to make slightly better than evo X OEM turbo power...

asking to make the power of a BBX lite or similar is just too out of the question, as the turbo housing is not big enough to allow us to fit compressor and turbine wheels of that size.

Obviously the expense of going with this upgrade will be much less than purchasing a used X turbo... manifold.. o2 housing... coolant/oil lines.. intake, relocate the battery...etc....

Cheers

cb[/quote

What all does the "Full" Upgrade include?

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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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I think there are alot of misconceptions about the trans not holding over 300WTQ

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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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man that's gorgeous!!
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