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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Why would I need to re-read your post? My answer is still the same. The only mod that alters your hp is the housing. Alky, and the studs dont do anything for your hp all the alky does is let you boost higher safely. Alky is a supoorting mod to make more hp it doesnt make more hp itself. I hope you understand that.
It goes without saying that I'm going to get tuned for the alky and turn up my boost. You can't possibly think I was going to hook up a kit and not use it to turn up the boost. Regardless of what insane thoughts are in your head.

100% of the time, when someone on this forum talks about adding alky, it means they are going to be tuned for it and turn up the boost. If you think otherwise, you are just trying to start an argument.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 2003lancerevo8
Have you guys not seen the guys who are running there stock turbo 8's that are in the 11's and high 10's? They are not running those turbos at 25 lbs of boost, I can promise you that!
Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Are you kidding me? People that are running those times are NOT on the stock FMIC, ARE NOT ON THE STOCK engine and clutch and are certainly not on the stock ems.

They basically modded everything else but the turbo. Their bill is waaay into the 5-10k mark and you could get those times cheaper with a upgraded turbo kit.
Not only that, but I thinking the turbos have some mad porting and maybe even clipped wheels. I guess people still consider that stock, but I'm not so sure.

But I agree with Skillmatic. I think you'd be happier putting that money into a 50 trim or small GT series upgrade.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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wait you mean steve??? and whats up with the reaction before all you guys name?? is it a team thing? sorry now lets get back to the fight...

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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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[QUOTE=SKILMATIC]here ya go dude







You also agreed with him here and he mentioned 28psi and he went on to claim that people have been in the 10's on the stocker which is also false.

it is my understanding that curt brown ran a 10 on the stocker,albeit it probably had a ported mani as well as many other tricks and was on a fully built motor

And he isnt on low boost he is on 22-23psi already. Low boost is consider stock or lower than stock. Also it is feasable to get around 400whp with all those mods with 25psi with a good tune on race gas. That isnt the argument though.

actually it is the argument...the op stated he was making 360whp and was going to add alky and an o2 and headstuds...then asked if 400whp would be possible..you went on about how headstuds add nothing in power(true) and the o2 was the only thing that would make a difference...well i have yet to see any person add alky w/o raising the boost level,so it seems as though added boost along with an o2 may push power close to 400whp...even if the turbo is out of its range
For some apparent reason you think you can boost a stock turbo to any amount of psi because YOU havent seen a blown turbo.

again not what i meant...i hardly think raising boost(on the stock turbo) to 26-27 lbs is going outside the realm of the norm on race gas and i have never seen a stock evo8 turbo blow at those moderate levels...mayeb some have but i have yet to see them and the ones that have blown may have had manufacturing defects...who knows....all i know is that alot of guys that tune evo's for a living regularly will surpass stock boost levels...shiv tuned mine for the 26lb spike and im pretty sure he wouldnt tune it to that level if their was as much risk involved as you try and make it seem
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
Not only that, but I thinking the turbos have some mad porting and maybe even clipped wheels. I guess people still consider that stock, but I'm not so sure.

But I agree with Skillmatic. I think you'd be happier putting that money into a 50 trim or small GT series upgrade.
oh im sure the fastest stock turbo guys have a few tricks done...and i agree id personally just get a bigger turbo but i dont see why he has to give a guy who just wants to test the limits of his turbo out before upgrading such a hard time...besides the guys who push the evelope of the stock turbo are pretty much doin the r&d for the roadracers who dont want to give up anything in the way of lag for their setups
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by raiceboi697
wait you mean steve??? and whats up with the reaction before all you guys name?? is it a team thing? sorry now lets get back to the fight...
yup steve...fight lol nah i dont get excited that easily
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Again I dont know how many times I or other people have to say it. Alky doesnt give you more hp it just allows you to be able to boost more safely. So again the alky, the housing, and the studs wouldnt give him 40more whp. Period.

Now with the addition to those mods and with a great tune by Al @ 25psi on race gas you would see close to 400whp. MAYBE
More safely with alky huh?
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bernardo
It goes without saying that I'm going to get tuned for the alky and turn up my boost. You can't possibly think I was going to hook up a kit and not use it to turn up the boost. Regardless of what insane thoughts are in your head.

100% of the time, when someone on this forum talks about adding alky, it means they are going to be tuned for it and turn up the boost. If you think otherwise, you are just trying to start an argument.
This is a discomforting grave assumption my friend. I have to assume newbs dont know anything. Especially with threads like these.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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To be honest most "evolved members" are in the same boat. You two seem to turn every thread agains somebody by there rank and that is BS... You can call me anything you want.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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it is my understanding that curt brown ran a 10 on the stocker,albeit it probably had a ported mani as well as many other tricks and was on a fully built motor
Yeah let me build everyhting else and leave the turbo stock just to prove a point. I mean c'mon this is pointless. Who would do that unless you want to waiste money just to see how far the stocker can go? If thats your idea of advice then by all means I am sure engine shops are going to love you.

actually it is the argument...the op stated he was making 360whp and was going to add alky and an o2 and headstuds...then asked if 400whp would be possible..you went on about how headstuds add nothing in power(true) and the o2 was the only thing that would make a difference...well i have yet to see any person add alky w/o raising the boost level,so it seems as though added boost along with an o2 may push power close to 400whp...even if the turbo is out of its range
And like I have been saying for like 5pages now I already answered his question several times. With all the supporting mods and with a custom flash, @ 25 psi with alky approximately 400awhp can be achieved. He doesnt need to jump out of its efficiency range. With alky and the right plugs he can also up it to 26 and still be fine.

again not what i meant...i hardly think raising boost(on the stock turbo) to 26-27 lbs is going outside the realm of the norm on race gas and i have never seen a stock evo8 turbo blow at those moderate levels...mayeb some have but i have yet to see them and the ones that have blown may have had manufacturing defects...who knows....all i know is that alot of guys that tune evo's for a living regularly will surpass stock boost levels...shiv tuned mine for the 26lb spike and im pretty sure he wouldnt tune it to that level if their was as much risk involved as you try and make it seem
Well you didnt say that though. You were on your high horse boasting how people have boosted at 30psi with no problems then you go as so far to say you havent ever heard of anyone blowing their turbos or engines becuase of this. But like I said if you are on alky with all the supporting mods and proper tuning I personally would advocate the ok for 26psi tops.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by zhemel
To be honest most "evolved members" are in the same boat. You two seem to turn every thread agains somebody by there rank and that is BS... You can call me anything you want.
Wtf????????!!!!!!!!!! And you go in every thread not knowing a damn thing.

I suppose your advice for this guy is to get a 2.3L stroker too huh?
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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someone is getting out of hand.....geez. relax its a forum, not dog fight.



bernardo, When i got tuned on alky at TT i gained 30whp/60 trq. so that should give u some idea where u'll be at.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Wtf????????!!!!!!!!!! And you go in every thread not knowing a damn thing.

I suppose your advice for this guy is to get a 2.3L stroker too huh?
No. My advice to anybody in this forums is to run and hide when skilmatic and warrtalon have something to say. You two are wrong most of the time and seem to think that people come on this site to be taught a lesson. Hey blow up your car with cheep tuning tricks, listen to warr and slowmatic.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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yeah seriously, go write a book on modding .....hahaha
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Light
someone is getting out of hand.....geez. relax its a forum, not dog fight.



bernardo, When i got tuned on alky at TT i gained 30whp/60 trq. so that should give u some idea where u'll be at.
You gained how much just running alky? I knwo those numbers wrent put down with out increasing boost.
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