WTF??? What does any of this have to do with this thread and what I have said inregards to the thread starter? You just proved me right again. This was the only reason why you came in here to pick a bone with me! I knew it!

This had nothing to do with actually educating anyone it was to flame me. Again I suggest you leave this thread because you have no business in it with that type of attitude.

 

you teacher is teaching... hush and learn.

 

Much better teacher than you will ever be. However, you keep proving me right every single time. If you were a good nerd then you would have taken this flame attempt to a pm and not destroy this persons thread. At least have a little integrity dude.

 

SKILMATIC: This is not a “newb” thread. I’m asking a legitimate question about the capabilities of the IX turbo. This is a new turbo to our cars, and it’s only recently that there have been some options regarding cams for our car.

I’m already making the same hp that the VIII makes with cams, so I’m trying to establish if cams are even worthwhile on an IX with alky. This is not a topic that’s been specifically covered in other threads.

This is now a 9+ page thread and I’m sure the mods are reading it. Please do not get this thread closed because I’m sure there are many IX owners that would like input on this topic. I’ve received 5-6 pm’s regarding this thread, and trust me when I tell you there are many people that are glad this thread exists.

I appreciate the input of trinydrex and Warr and everyone else that’s given their input.

 

to be directly helpful to bernardo. if it is your goal to squeeze every last bit out of the stock turbo, if you are in full knowledge of pursuing the diminishing returns then there's nothing inherently 'wrong' with that.

the fact is there is nary a turbo that will bridge the gap between the stock turbo and a gt series. so you can either try to minimize the lag from a gt series or maximize the power from a stock sized turbo. it's a serious pity that a middle ground does not exist.

if you are gonna sand bag a stock sized turbo then you're gonna encounter rising exhaust pressures and that coupled with the compressor inefficiencies will be the dominating horsepower limiters.

the 20g5 blade and the white rabbit (the white rabbit wheel) was designed to alleviate the high boost flow problems associated with an overly small compressor. the lack of 1 blade gets you some delay in spool but will ultimately flow more at high pressures. this is in contrast to something like a gt35r flowing faster (fin speed) and more at a lower pressure.

 

Dude, their info is going to be the same thing as what I have said. If you havent learned that by now then there is no point going on.

I wont get your thread closed trinydex will end up doing that for you because if you notice he is the one who starts flaming people for no reason.

This topic has been covered here countless times. However, you dont know that cause you haven't searched. Trinydex knows this topic has been covered here too but will never admit it or agree to anything I say because he has a bone to pick with me for some reason?

Your not the first guy who has asked "what are the limits of the stock turbo?" This question is very common here no matter all the different ways in asking it the answer is ultimately the same depending on of course people supporting mods and their ultimate goals for the car.

 

i only have a bone to pick with falsehood and those who spread it like they're a badass that knows somethin'.

 

And what falsehood might that be? You still havent told me 1 thing that I posted that was wrong. Because maybe it doesn't exxist and you yourself know it.

So you mean to tell me that with all the supporting mods with alky and of course the right tuning my advocation to up the boost to 25-26psi is wrong? Cause thats what I am telling these people. If you are saying that this is the wrong info please let us all know so we can laugh at you.

 

weren't you the one that brought this to pms and didn't wanna soil his thread? i already pmed you https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...9&postcount=85

you said he can stay at 25psi... not jumping out of his efficiency range. that is STRAIGHT FALSE. if the turbo was efficient at that level of boost it wouldn't taper. nuff said.

anyway, it has nothing to do with what he's doing. what he's going to do is wring every last drop he can out of it. i can respect that. if that's his perrogative then let him do it to his best.

 

I said he could go to 25psi and "still be fine." Look at the post you moron! In that whole post I never said the word efficiency 1 time in concordance to that number! And btw, he will be fine at 25-26psi. Again learn how to read dude.

And answer the question dude. I beleive I asked you a question. Are you saying 25-26psi isnt safe? Are you saying 30psi is the right setting for those list of mods? What are you saying?

 

are you really this dumb?

damn... just read what i've already said. i said 25 is not efficient. you can make 30psi safe... it might not make power... but **** your power you talk about things not relevant to what the op wanted to know.

 

Please stop being a moron. I said that inregards to someone elses bad info. I was being sarcastic. IF YOU READ THE THREAD YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT.

The op wanted to know if he can make 40awhp from a 02housing, alky, and arp head studs. I said no unless you get tuned and up the boost. He never said anything about tuning or upping the boost all he said were those t3 modifications.

IMHO increasing boost is a mod and so is getting tuned. Just slapping those 3 mods on isnt going to give you 40 more awhp on a dyno without adequate tuning and increasing the boost. Yes I could have ASSumed that he was going to increase boost, but I cant ASSume that if he is a newbie. So I explained that to the op very clearly. And I told him the best route to achieve that goal.

You have done nothing but try and riduclue me for giving him the right info.

So what about the efficiency. Thats not what the op asked for so stop being an idiot. You talk about the op and you arent even on topic. The op never said anything about efficiency ranges. He just asked a simple question and I gave him a simple easy to understand answer.

Give it a rest

 

you say in your humble opinion yet not only is the opinion not humble... it stretched for how many pages about not even what the op asked about, which was how to MAX out hte 9 turbo. somehow i believe they're less fed up with me than you.

way to dodge again btw.

you go on ignore, now.

 

[QUOTE=bernardo]Ok, here's my question: When am I going to max out the capabilities of the stock IX turbo?

My IX is currently at 360whp (Dynojet)with exhaust, MBC, Buschur intake/intercooler and Walboro pump. 22psi on 93oct. Custom dynoflash.

I'm adding headstuds, 02 housing and alky this month. That should get me to about 400whp on the stock IX turbo.
Now I read that GSC is releasing 280 cams for the IX next month. If they're like most Evo cams, we can maybe expect 30-ish whp from them. That would get me to about 430whp.

I'm sitting here wondering, however, if 430whp is really possible on the stock turbo, even with cams and alky. Those are stupid big numbers, but are they really possible? What I'm asking is, will the stock turbo be maxed out by the alky? And if it's almost maxed out, will the cams even be worth it?
If you think it's worth waiting for the cams, then I'm gonna wait and just get tuned by Al for the alky and cams at the same time.

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Again he noted with the mods and I had to clarify that with him. That with those mods and the increased boost and good tune he can attain 40 more awhp.

Then yes, he asked WITH these mods will the turbo be "maxed out." Never once referred to efficiency at all in his thread opener.

Maxing out the turbo to me is pushing its limits so far right before it breaks. Which I have stated IMHO it wouldn't be a good idea to boost to 30psi let alone more than 25-26. Efficiency has nothing to do with his questions. He asked what hp could he get with a specific list of mods, and if the turbo would be "maxed out" with the addition of these mods.

If the op asked what is the efficiency range of the turbo, and I plainly answered and said 25 then I would permit you to correct me. But this is NOT even close to that case.

Again, stop with the false accusations and assumptions. Show me one place where the thread opener stated efficiency in his opening statement? Just once.

 

just give up skilmatic knows everything..no point in arguing with him he will just drag it out forever and never admit fault