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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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that was my post you quoted.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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2003lancerevo8,


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Get a real custom tune, not a mail in or anything cheap like that.
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I agree with you on the real custom tune, perhaps the custom tune can squeeze more power however I also run a mail-in flash from Dynoflash and it put down some serious numbers .

I read many post from other people and I compare my own numbers vs some people that spent $1000 on a ECUTEK plus tuning and found out that my car put equal power than others with ECUTEK and custom tune.

3"tb with cat,Buschur cone,Unos MBC,Dynoflash Mail- in
304whp/304whp on 91oct in Tucson on the Evo 9

Today I can say that the mail in flash are very competitive and very good performers in you are running basic mods like me.

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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by reactionevo8
i give up there is no point in arguing with ignorant people like yourself...have fun coming in second place for ther rest of your life
How am I ignorant? I am telling you facts here you are the one going off about how you want to push the supposed limits of the stocker. You have no basis for which you claim and you have no factual evidence that pushing the stocker to 30psi is safe because therefore there is none because the COMPRESSOR MAPS!!!! TELL YOU SO

Yes peopel push their stockers to 30psi I knwo that already and yes there are some peopel putting down great times with the stock turbo on higher boost levels but look what they are also running. The rest of thier car is fully built except the turbo. You are giving out bad info.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue03Evo
that was my post you quoted.
I know but I directed it to reaction. He said he never heard or seen a blow stock turbo so I quoted you for him so he can hear of one.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WhIte06evO9
**** if i made 280 after a gt30r i would be pissed could of had massive leaks
Yeah, ask Al. he tuned a friend of mine that had a Black Evo 03 and it was running like S H I T. He even had a ECUTEK. The car wouldn't eevn idle at all, the engine would just die. The car was running very bad, Al was able to squeeze 55whp on a Mustang Dyno from 230 to 285 whp, he also fix the iddle issue.

I am saying sometime people just like to add up numbers and think that because you are adding mods you are adding power. In this particular case the 03 black Evo owner did not have a proper tuning and it hurt his performance to the extreme.

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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
How am I ignorant? I am telling you facts here you are the one going off about how you want to push the supposed limits of the stocker. You have no basis for which you claim and you have no factual evidence that pushing the stocker to 30psi is safe because therefore there is none because the COMPRESSOR MAPS!!!! TELL YOU SO

Yes peopel push their stockers to 30psi I knwo that already and yes there are some peopel putting down great times with the stock turbo on higher boost levels but look what they are also running. The rest of thier car is fully built except the turbo. You are giving out bad info.
please tell me where i said pushing 30 lbs on a stock turbo was a great idea...actually please find one single post where i said anytrhing about 30lbs in any sentence(besides this post)...all i said is that since the guy is making 360 something already on low boost pump gas map that i think it may be feasible to make close to 400whp with an alky kit(and higher boost) and an 02 housing,since i personally make an additional 33whp on my smaller evo8 turbo with a tuned 110 map and a 26lb spike
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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wow this has gotten heated in a few hours since i posted... im just wondering if reactionevo8 is who i think it is. not many people address me by my name on here....
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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after reading all this thou i wanna see how much power this 9 makes. if it can do it and not have the weak wastegate spring flapper. i wanna see how much it can put down. hell if the tune is safe i will definatly say congrats.. i have been wrong before in this turbo 4 cyc game. althou i am betting that mitsu says some things about what the car isnt capable of for saftey.we all know you can push both this and the STi to amazing numbers with little more then exhaust and a decent tune. if he gets 400 or more then ill be the first here to buy him a . im just a bigger fan of making the power a lil easier. thats why i would sugest a bigger turbo to go along with the alky. but. best of luck regardless in anything any of us on here try! we all say the same prayer when we hit the dyno.."BIG NUMBERS!, BIG NUMBERS!, PLEASE gOD DONT LET MY CAR BLOW, AND LET ME MAKE SOME BIG NUMBERS!!"
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by raiceboi697
wow this has gotten heated in a few hours since i posted... im just wondering if reactionevo8 is who i think it is. not many people address me by my name on here....
zols and brians buddy with the white evo and the gold/polished works
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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check my engine out! warning to yall who goes beyond 350whp
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by reactionevo8
please tell me where i said pushing 30 lbs on a stock turbo was a great idea...actually please find one single post where i said anytrhing about 30lbs in any sentence(besides this post)...all i said is that since the guy is making 360 something already on low boost pump gas map that i think it may be feasible to make close to 400whp with an alky kit(and higher boost) and an 02 housing,since i personally make an additional 33whp on my smaller evo8 turbo with a tuned 110 map and a 26lb spike
here ya go dude

originally posted by reactionevo8: i sensed your sarcasm but i think you are wrong therefore i thought i would just add my 2cents...imho if the turbo doesnt blow and the tune is safe and the car makes the power regardless of the turbo being out of its efficency range then i see no problem with pushing the limits of the turbo
originally posted by reactionevo8: i will continue to push the limits instead of listening to sheep such as yourself who are scared of what might happen at the limit..if their is a problem with the turbos blowing then i want to see the proof..all i have seen from stock turbos being pushed too hard so far are cars faster then they should be and records(curt brown etc.)
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Originally Posted by 2003lancerevo8
Have you guys not seen the guys who are running there stock turbo 8's that are in the 11's and high 10's? They are not running those turbos at 25 lbs of boost, I can promise you that! On my old setup, I was running 373 horse and 360 torque and i was on the stock bottom end pushing my turbo to around 27-28 lbs for over 2 years and not one problem.

FOr the original post,

Great #'s so far, I dont think you will get to 400-430 but you should be close! Get a real custom tune, not a mail in or anything cheap like that.

Good luck, let us know what you hit.

originally posted by reactionevo8: thank you
You also agreed with him here and he mentioned 28psi and he went on to claim that people have been in the 10's on the stocker which is also false.

And he isnt on low boost he is on 22-23psi already. Low boost is consider stock or lower than stock. Also it is feasable to get around 400whp with all those mods with 25psi with a good tune on race gas. That isnt the argument though.

For some apparent reason you think you can boost a stock turbo to any amount of psi because YOU havent seen a blown turbo.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Wow, this thread did take a bit of a strange turn.

SKILMATIC:. I'm glad others helped you re-read (again) my first post.

Carlos: You're saying just what I'm wondering about. My thought is that I want to add all the "basic" stuff before upgrading to a larger turbo. I already have the Snow alcohol kit installed in the car with the fuse pulled out because I'm not tuned for it yet.

Like most people, I saw that GSC was making cams and wondered what they would do on my car. Since I'm already committed to the path towards adding alky, I wondered if the two would "cancel" each other out in some way.

After reading along this thread, though, I'm wondering about the possible benefits of running the new IX cams with the alky, but keeping the boost a little lower (like maybe 24-25psi) to keep the turbo in an efficient range. Just a thought...

And just to clarify, I'm looking to maximize my power while spending as little money as possible. I'm not looking to upgrade my turbo just yet, and I don't want to blow $600 on cams if they're not going to give me more hp.

I'm not determined to meet a specific hp goal, and I'm not out to set any records on the stock turbo.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Below, please see Greg from GSC's quote regarding my original question:

Originally Posted by bernardo
Hey Greg
Will these cams be worthwhile on an IX with alky that's already making about 390whp? Can the stock IX turbo push enough to see the full benefits of these cams? If so, that would be close to 420-430whp on the stock turbo...
Originally Posted by GregGSC
Yes they will help of course but as you already know when the turbo is maxed out there is not much we can do. you will more than likley see a lot of under the curve power but peak will deffinaly be effect by turbo efficiancy. I do think that range of 420-430 is acheavable on cams and the stock turbo @ 25-26psi. Im pretty sure we will see even more stock turbo ix's with our cams in the 400's than we see with the viii stock turbo and our cams(about 10 VIIIs that i know of).
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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SKILMATIC:. I'm glad others helped you re-read (again) my first post.
Why would I need to re-read your post? My answer is still the same. The only mod that alters your hp is the housing. Alky, and the studs dont do anything for your hp all the alky does is let you boost higher safely. Alky is a supoorting mod to make more hp it doesnt make more hp itself. I hope you understand that.
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