^ What?! Horsepower is work done over time or more specifically (albeit, still not accurate), 1 HP = 33,000 lbs moved 1 ft over 1 minute.

 

Here is one pass from yesterday. It was my second pass and the clutch sliped so badly that I let out and got back in it. It was the 12.33 timeslip I believe. Nova ran a 12.3 as well but he was asleep at the tree and I had more top end.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9...6A3D2098BF.htm

 

Warr, listen man, all I am trying to say is that you are arguing with the OP on his 1/4 speed and time, using faulty logic, and you keep on estimating 380hp from looking at a drag strip slip, come on. Why do even Dyno anymore, Warr? When we can just make up our HP rating by looking at our 1/4 trap speeds and times.

 

What are you talking about Ivan? Trap speeds correlate to whp. We all know this - it's not something I made up. It is pretty common knowledge as to what trap speeds equate on a Dynojet for a stock turbo'd Evo. IN GENERAL, trapping 117+mph means you have at least 380whp. That's just how it is. He isn't magically trapping 117mph with 350whp, and even 350whp would be the upper limit of what his mods can produce on pump gas, especially at low boost.

The dyno is just a tool to show gains. The track shows true power. In this case, he's making the equivalent of 380whp on a Dynojet (uncorrected). Why is this so hard to understand, and why are you refuting it wish such fervor?

 

Warrtalon,

There is a point whereby moving the boost further upward is a losing proposition, simply because timing has to be retarded too far from MBT to live with the increased air mass. However, raising the boost doesn't always raise air mass. If the IAT rises sharply upon adding more boost due to compressor efficiency limits, that equates to increased IAT and virtually no change in air mass, which can also result in less power.

Yes, a good deal of power can be observed from small timing changes - more so from timing changes than changes in A/F. Also, as Drifto pointed out, leaning the A/F with a piggyback unit kicks everything into a different load cell - one with more advanced timing. This being the case, what constitutes a 'small change' with a standalone can actually make a significant, multi-dimensional change to both timing and fuel matrices with a piggyback unit.

As far as the Samco intake hose. I never bought into that making more power, so you'll have to question DB on *his* claims to the contrary.

He has lightened wheels and both our cars sit slightly lower with Hotchkiss springs (less underbody drag at high speeds). That may factor in to some degree as well, so don't assume otherwise.

 

Thank you ......

I dont think any one of us is saying this DIDNT happen , it just dont add up .

 

Ouch! Sub-par driving. That hurts. Think about it this way. I had more time than you to gain more mph. Example: Often high hp car on street tires will have a crappy ET and a huge mph. When slicks are bolted onto that same car ET improves dramatically and more oftem than not mph falls. Why? The hp didn't change, but the time it took to get to the end lessened so the car had less time to gain MPH.

War I don't think your reading everything I say. More timing= more power, more airflow= more power, less fuel= more power. All of these things changed to give me more power than before. I never said that changing to the Samco was the reason for all of this, only that it probably helped.

Again War, check out the dude I linked. He is on here, with very similar mods to me and 22psi. He made 378whp on 93 only.

 

The link didn't work. There is only one person making that much power and that's with significantly more boost than you and a dangerous tune. Many cars with the same mods, same boost, and same dangerous tune still don't get that high, so it is extremely rare. I know what you're saying with all that stuff, but I still don't believe you gained 40whp from such minor changes.

 

wow, congrats on the nice run. stock turbo and pump gas and running low 12's kick a$$!

 

Actually the car made 343whp and 345wtq STD correction and 337whp and 339wtq SAE correction a year ago on a DJ in ATL. This was at 22 tapering to 20psi It did this before the header, O2 housing, Samco inlet pipe, 2.75",much shorter, upper i/c pipe, air box w/ headlight duct, colder plugs, leaner AFR, and more timing. I would find it easy to believe that I'm making more than 10whp now

 

Good runs.

 

Nice, I didn't see your mods but that is a great time & MPH on 93 octain. I do consistant 116mph on race gas with tbe, intake, FMIC, 272's, 26psi.

 

That's pretty standard and is why 117mph on 93oct is so hard to believe.

 

Would you believe that a 20g car w/ meth and HKS 280s and every mod I have plus it was tuned by a very competent tuner (Ted B) would run 12.0's @ 117? Well guess what, that exact car was there at the same time I was and was running those times. That should end this track out of wack debate. My car is a freak, the planets were aligned perfectly, whatever. It did what it did on the same day, at the same place, at the same time as a car that no one would question the results of. That should be enough proof.

 

Btw what did ted b trap in the 1/8 ?

He said about the same ?