DynoFlash or DynoTrash? You be the judge!
http://www.calepa.ca.gov/Programs/mtbe/winona.htm
And I quote.. " the fact that MTBE-blend causes lean mixture because of its oxygen content."
http://www.brownsmarina.com/tech-rfgas.html
And I quote.. "in fact, oxygenates actually chemically lean out the fuel/air ratio"
http://www.wauknet.com/douthitt/gas.htm
http://home.earthlink.net/~graham1/M...chiometric.htm
Sorry man, the internet is not agreeing with you. Maybe you could provide some information, like I asked?
Thanks man!! I'll be waiting for some links from you.. This really interests me!
And I quote.. " the fact that MTBE-blend causes lean mixture because of its oxygen content."
http://www.brownsmarina.com/tech-rfgas.html
And I quote.. "in fact, oxygenates actually chemically lean out the fuel/air ratio"
http://www.wauknet.com/douthitt/gas.htm
http://home.earthlink.net/~graham1/M...chiometric.htm
Sorry man, the internet is not agreeing with you. Maybe you could provide some information, like I asked?
Thanks man!! I'll be waiting for some links from you.. This really interests me!
Originally Posted by imprezivr6
NO, what you may be reading is that when you add it you can TUNE for a leaner AFR and more advanced timing without Knock. Due to the octane and specific gravity of c16 it takes some serious energy to burn.. If any of you would like to test this out i have a wideband mounted in my car and i would be willing to run 93 pump logs then dump in c16 and log again.. That is the reason for a c16 tune, because if you run c16 on your pump tune you will be DOWN on power...
Originally Posted by Streetrcrm3
I also find it pretty interesting that the employee's at pruven call it a dynoflush; that in itself says a lot about this product.
MJT
MJT
I love to tell them "its time to get flushing" when its time to get moving on the dyno - its all just humorous fun.
The main thing is we all have a great time doing for work what we love to do and we laugh and tell lots of jokes.
Its sad when an individual like this guy who obviously thinks the world is out to screw him and he can outsmart everyone comes into our shop and starts taking things out of context and spinning a fairy tale like the one he is casting here.
Al- Stop throwing in the c16 tune on Eriks car, you ant take credit for that one buddy, that map was on his car when he rolled in, so yes he is happy with his c16 tune he paid nothing for..
Mikes dad- Not sure what your problem is.. If you have something to say to me say it saturday at etown, i am more then happy to talk to you..
Mikes dad- Not sure what your problem is.. If you have something to say to me say it saturday at etown, i am more then happy to talk to you..
When I was looking for someone to tune my car with my new turbo kit all I saw front of me was AL because all the bad posts about him were either deleted or closed. I was going to loose even more money with him. Let’s not bring Shiv to this subject at all and let’s not turn tables around here. I don’t care about the old Dyno FLUSH customers I care about new members who are trying to find a good true honest tuner who wont steal their money (same happened to me and many many others) This post and many other lately will help new EVO owners to set their feet on the right track.
Mhyar
Mhyar
Al, how's it going, man?
I am the guy that picked you up at the airport when you came to Dallas several (or a few?) months ago. You flashed my ECU on the way to your hotel.
Hey man, I was satisfied with my flash after you did whatever you did. It "felt" good.
However, I ran my friend with half the mods I have and he kept outrunning me in fifth gear horsepower runs.
I called you and you told me that my Hallman Boost Controller was bad. I found that to be an astounding over the phone - cross country immediate diagnosis.
I didn't change anything except for the flash to one from TurboTrix.
Now I pull HARD over the same friend with the same parts. And by the way, my AF ratio is just as safe or safer than yours. Below 11:1 in the majority of the RPM range.
I also put down over 40 more horsepower than said friend did when, before the change of flash, he was outrunning me in fifth gear on the highway.
I don't think there is any excuse for my results. I have no doubt that your tune is better than the stock ECU trying to control aftermarket parts.
However, compared to ANY other tune from ANY other tuner or vendor, your Dynoflash is subpar and NOT worth the money. While you were here in Dallas and after your sale to me while on the phone, you never made me feel comfortable or happy with the product you sold me. After trying a different product, I am convinced that I made a POOR decision in giving you my money.
While you MAY have flashed "over 700" ECU's, I think that your claim of "happy customers" is unverified and false. I think that a HUGE percentage have either had someone else reflash their ECU or have found other means of engine control. You DO NOT have 700 dynoflashed ECUs out there, sorry to say.
This post is strictly business, Al. Personally, no hard feelings.
My recommendation to those considering Dynoflash is this:
Don't do it.
I am the guy that picked you up at the airport when you came to Dallas several (or a few?) months ago. You flashed my ECU on the way to your hotel.
Hey man, I was satisfied with my flash after you did whatever you did. It "felt" good.
However, I ran my friend with half the mods I have and he kept outrunning me in fifth gear horsepower runs.
I called you and you told me that my Hallman Boost Controller was bad. I found that to be an astounding over the phone - cross country immediate diagnosis.
I didn't change anything except for the flash to one from TurboTrix.
Now I pull HARD over the same friend with the same parts. And by the way, my AF ratio is just as safe or safer than yours. Below 11:1 in the majority of the RPM range.
I also put down over 40 more horsepower than said friend did when, before the change of flash, he was outrunning me in fifth gear on the highway.
I don't think there is any excuse for my results. I have no doubt that your tune is better than the stock ECU trying to control aftermarket parts.
However, compared to ANY other tune from ANY other tuner or vendor, your Dynoflash is subpar and NOT worth the money. While you were here in Dallas and after your sale to me while on the phone, you never made me feel comfortable or happy with the product you sold me. After trying a different product, I am convinced that I made a POOR decision in giving you my money.
While you MAY have flashed "over 700" ECU's, I think that your claim of "happy customers" is unverified and false. I think that a HUGE percentage have either had someone else reflash their ECU or have found other means of engine control. You DO NOT have 700 dynoflashed ECUs out there, sorry to say.
This post is strictly business, Al. Personally, no hard feelings.
My recommendation to those considering Dynoflash is this:
Don't do it.
uh, Jab MTBE is used in reforumlated gas for areas that require less polluting gasoline
http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/
http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/
Originally Posted by siantjab
http://www.calepa.ca.gov/Programs/mtbe/winona.htm
And I quote.. " the fact that MTBE-blend causes lean mixture because of its oxygen content."
http://www.brownsmarina.com/tech-rfgas.html
And I quote.. "in fact, oxygenates actually chemically lean out the fuel/air ratio"
http://www.wauknet.com/douthitt/gas.htm
http://home.earthlink.net/~graham1/M...chiometric.htm
Sorry man, the internet is not agreeing with you. Maybe you could provide some information, like I asked?
Thanks man!! I'll be waiting for some links from you.. This really interests me!
And I quote.. " the fact that MTBE-blend causes lean mixture because of its oxygen content."
http://www.brownsmarina.com/tech-rfgas.html
And I quote.. "in fact, oxygenates actually chemically lean out the fuel/air ratio"
http://www.wauknet.com/douthitt/gas.htm
http://home.earthlink.net/~graham1/M...chiometric.htm
Sorry man, the internet is not agreeing with you. Maybe you could provide some information, like I asked?
Thanks man!! I'll be waiting for some links from you.. This really interests me!
Obviously - this individual has his own approach
I seriously doubt that anyone can say that my approach was somehow unfair or unreasonable
Originally Posted by siantjab
http://www.calepa.ca.gov/Programs/mtbe/winona.htm
And I quote.. " the fact that MTBE-blend causes lean mixture because of its oxygen content."
http://www.brownsmarina.com/tech-rfgas.html
And I quote.. "in fact, oxygenates actually chemically lean out the fuel/air ratio"
http://www.wauknet.com/douthitt/gas.htm
http://home.earthlink.net/~graham1/M...chiometric.htm
Sorry man, the internet is not agreeing with you. Maybe you could provide some information, like I asked?
Thanks man!! I'll be waiting for some links from you.. This really interests me!
And I quote.. " the fact that MTBE-blend causes lean mixture because of its oxygen content."
http://www.brownsmarina.com/tech-rfgas.html
And I quote.. "in fact, oxygenates actually chemically lean out the fuel/air ratio"
http://www.wauknet.com/douthitt/gas.htm
http://home.earthlink.net/~graham1/M...chiometric.htm
Sorry man, the internet is not agreeing with you. Maybe you could provide some information, like I asked?
Thanks man!! I'll be waiting for some links from you.. This really interests me!
Post by azscoobie:http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254675&highlight=c16+richen
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
St. Jab - its not worth it all - the main issue is the tiny amount of C-16 we put in this guy's tank - a small 2 1/5 gallon lawn mower sized copntainer is not going to have a dramatic effect on the fueling. The main purpose was to get in some detonation reistance to be able to safely turn up the boost for one pass to take a look at the power curves and make a diagnostic determination.
Obviously - this individual has his own approach
I seriously doubt that anyone can say that my approach was somehow unfair or unreasonable
Obviously - this individual has his own approach
I seriously doubt that anyone can say that my approach was somehow unfair or unreasonable
Every c16 tune i ever had was on 2.5 gal of c16..
Originally Posted by Az3ar
When I was looking for someone to tune my car with my new turbo kit all I saw front of me was AL because all the bad posts about him were either deleted or closed. I was going to loose even more money with him. Let’s not bring Shiv to this subject at all and let’s not turn tables around here. I don’t care about the old Dyno FLUSH customers I care about new members who are trying to find a good true honest tuner who wont steal their money (same happened to me and many many others) This post and many other lately will help new EVO owners to set their feet on the right track.
Mhyar
Mhyar
This is the type of posts that need to be here, regardless of who the vendor is:
Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
This post is strictly business, Al. Personally, no hard feelings.
My recommendation to those considering Dynoflash is this:
Don't do it.
My recommendation to those considering Dynoflash is this:
Don't do it.
Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
Al, how's it going, man?
I am the guy that picked you up at the airport when you came to Dallas several (or a few?) months ago. You flashed my ECU on the way to your hotel.
Hey man, I was satisfied with my flash after you did whatever you did. It "felt" good.
However, I ran my friend with half the mods I have and he kept outrunning me in fifth gear horsepower runs.
I called you and you told me that my Hallman Boost Controller was bad. I found that to be an astounding over the phone - cross country immediate diagnosis.
I didn't change anything except for the flash to one from TurboTrix.
Now I pull HARD over the same friend with the same parts. And by the way, my AF ratio is just as safe or safer than yours. Below 11:1 in the majority of the RPM range.
I also put down over 40 more horsepower than said friend did when, before the change of flash, he was outrunning me in fifth gear on the highway.
I don't think there is any excuse for my results. I have no doubt that your tune is better than the stock ECU trying to control aftermarket parts.
However, compared to ANY other tune from ANY other tuner or vendor, your Dynoflash is subpar and NOT worth the money. While you were here in Dallas and after your sale to me while on the phone, you never made me feel comfortable or happy with the product you sold me. After trying a different product, I am convinced that I made a POOR decision in giving you my money.
While you MAY have flashed "over 700" ECU's, I think that your claim of "happy customers" is unverified and false. I think that a HUGE percentage have either had someone else reflash their ECU or have found other means of engine control. You DO NOT have 700 dynoflashed ECUs out there, sorry to say.
This post is strictly business, Al. Personally, no hard feelings.
My recommendation to those considering Dynoflash is this:
Don't do it.
I am the guy that picked you up at the airport when you came to Dallas several (or a few?) months ago. You flashed my ECU on the way to your hotel.
Hey man, I was satisfied with my flash after you did whatever you did. It "felt" good.
However, I ran my friend with half the mods I have and he kept outrunning me in fifth gear horsepower runs.
I called you and you told me that my Hallman Boost Controller was bad. I found that to be an astounding over the phone - cross country immediate diagnosis.
I didn't change anything except for the flash to one from TurboTrix.
Now I pull HARD over the same friend with the same parts. And by the way, my AF ratio is just as safe or safer than yours. Below 11:1 in the majority of the RPM range.
I also put down over 40 more horsepower than said friend did when, before the change of flash, he was outrunning me in fifth gear on the highway.
I don't think there is any excuse for my results. I have no doubt that your tune is better than the stock ECU trying to control aftermarket parts.
However, compared to ANY other tune from ANY other tuner or vendor, your Dynoflash is subpar and NOT worth the money. While you were here in Dallas and after your sale to me while on the phone, you never made me feel comfortable or happy with the product you sold me. After trying a different product, I am convinced that I made a POOR decision in giving you my money.
While you MAY have flashed "over 700" ECU's, I think that your claim of "happy customers" is unverified and false. I think that a HUGE percentage have either had someone else reflash their ECU or have found other means of engine control. You DO NOT have 700 dynoflashed ECUs out there, sorry to say.
This post is strictly business, Al. Personally, no hard feelings.
My recommendation to those considering Dynoflash is this:
Don't do it.
oh my god the truth is finally coming. bad MBC???? What more bad Recaro seat. We need a thread to see where the 700 Dyno flush are??? are they still customers or it was just a big quick scam???
Originally Posted by UFO
You have no room to talk. You're not a customer. All you go on is what you read on an internet forum and what the other fan boys tell you. At least the original poster was actually at the dyno day in question.
This is the type of posts that need to be here, regardless of who the vendor is:
You see the difference? He's not just some blind fanboy hanging from somebody's nuts; he has experience with the vendor in question and was dissatisfied.
This is the type of posts that need to be here, regardless of who the vendor is:
You see the difference? He's not just some blind fanboy hanging from somebody's nuts; he has experience with the vendor in question and was dissatisfied.
You are the next EVO8power. I can see it I can smell it. good luck. Just one small advice dont burn your bridges like he did.
Mhyar
Not arguing.. Just trying to post what kind of information I'm finding. This is why I'm asking for links regarding c16 richening the A/Fs. What I posted was as close as I could find. I was hoping for some links in return to help me understand the RICH/LEAN arguement.
Originally Posted by Event-Horizon
uh, Jab MTBE is used in reforumlated gas for areas that require less polluting gasoline
http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/
http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/


