DynoFlash or DynoTrash? You be the judge!
Originally Posted by Az3ar
oh my god the truth is finally coming. bad MBC???? What more bad Recaro seat. We need a thread to see where the 700 Dyno flush are??? are they still customers or it was just a big quick scam???
Oh and Al i know more then you think i do about your techtom reflashes.. I have ran reflashes in my car for a few years until i went with something a little more advacned..
Like i said the problem with the relfash market is "generally" they are people who do not know much about tuning a car, or do not care to know about it, they just want a car that runs a little faster and they are happy.. There is more to tuning then 1hr dyno tunes..
Originally Posted by siantjab
Not arguing.. Just trying to post what kind of information I'm finding. This is why I'm asking for links regarding c16 richening the A/Fs. What I posted was as close as I could find. I was hoping for some links in return to help me understand the RICH/LEAN arguement.
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 610
Likes: 0
From: RAMAR village, pampanga PHILIPPINES, Temecula, CA
this is scary.... i need to get my car dyno'd. when my car had tbe and a KnN drop in filter, it made 260+hp on brainstorms dyno. i wanna see if i gained or lost hp and torque after the custom tune dynoflash.i will post the numbers when i get it dyno'd again...
Originally Posted by imprezivr6
Mikes dad- Not sure what your problem is.. If you have something to say to me say it saturday at etown, i am more then happy to talk to you..
Why do you think I a problem with you personally. You seem to have a problem with those who don't see it your way.
I never said anything disrespectful to you or about you. In fact, I agree with much of what you said.
I have posted both facts and my own viewpoint of the day that conflict with some of what you said, that's all.
And I noticed that you have not responded to any of my points with actual data.
What I get is the "I'm hopeless" I'm brainwashed" crap.
And I have a problem ???
I now ask the readers of this thread to concur or disagree with my assessment.
Originally Posted by imprezivr6
Like i said the problem with the relfash market is "generally" they are people who do not know much about tuning a car, or do not care to know about it, they just want a car that runs a little faster and they are happy.. There is more to tuning then 1hr dyno tunes..
He has a life that doesn't revolve around his car.
My question is - what's wrong with that ???
How does that make those people less human ??? less intelligent ???
Well since the **** is all out......I have a dynoflashed car.
I flashed it and absolutly felt no gain. However I have no evidence supporting this so I cannot come on here and tarnish Al's name like that. So I cannot agree or disagree with the flash bieng good or a piece of crap.
However I can offer my experiences with Al on a business transaction side of things.
I have dealt with amstuning.com, slgp.com, gruppes.com, evostore.com and a few others. I have nothing but praise for these individuals.
In dealing with Al I got my flash in a timely manner as promised....but he was extremely rude when I talked to him over the phone, via pm and email. Kinda acted like he was doing me a favor. Not good business practice....considering most of your clientel are forum based.......a tight knit family of sorts.
When you treat customers like *** you dont get repeat business.
And you will not be getting mine
I flashed it and absolutly felt no gain. However I have no evidence supporting this so I cannot come on here and tarnish Al's name like that. So I cannot agree or disagree with the flash bieng good or a piece of crap.
However I can offer my experiences with Al on a business transaction side of things.
I have dealt with amstuning.com, slgp.com, gruppes.com, evostore.com and a few others. I have nothing but praise for these individuals.
In dealing with Al I got my flash in a timely manner as promised....but he was extremely rude when I talked to him over the phone, via pm and email. Kinda acted like he was doing me a favor. Not good business practice....considering most of your clientel are forum based.......a tight knit family of sorts.
When you treat customers like *** you dont get repeat business.
And you will not be getting mine
Originally Posted by mikesevo8
Still
Why do you think I a problem with you personally.
You seem to have a problem with those who don't see it your way.
I never said anything disrespectful to you or about you. In fact, I agree with much of what you said.
I have posted both facts and my own viewpoint of the day that conflict with some of what you said, that's all.
And I noticed that you have not responded to any of my points with actual data.
What I get is the "I'm hopeless" I'm brainwashed" crap.
And I have a problem ???
I now ask the readers of this thread to concur or disagree with my assessment.
Why do you think I a problem with you personally. You seem to have a problem with those who don't see it your way.
I never said anything disrespectful to you or about you. In fact, I agree with much of what you said.
I have posted both facts and my own viewpoint of the day that conflict with some of what you said, that's all.
And I noticed that you have not responded to any of my points with actual data.
What I get is the "I'm hopeless" I'm brainwashed" crap.
And I have a problem ???
I now ask the readers of this thread to concur or disagree with my assessment.
I say you guys must be new to modding and you get all offensive, well are you new to it? It isnt a bad thing, and wasnt ment as an insult.. I have a problem with people who form their opinion after dealing with only one shop.. I would love for you to come to say Turbo Xs for example for a tune and see the difference in treatment you recieve, and the level of tune you leave with..
Keep in mind turbo xs is not a shop they are a whare house and have dyno and offer tuning.. When we drove their with my friends sti swapped RS as soon as nathan and Jermaine heard the car they knew there was a problem.. They said he was running on 3cyl.. Instead of saying sorry we dont have time for this, we dont fix cars here they diagnosed the problem and fixed it, then tuned for 5 hours into the nught, keep in mind they do ALL their tuning after work hours at night so 5pm it starts.. While there they do not joke and laugh and goof off they hardly ever get out of the car at all unless it is to spray the intercooler or something.. They sit there and do what they are getting paid for..
Eriks dad also had a similar experience with Nathan and Jermaine and couldnt be happier, he was also at the dyno day and felt un easy about it, and even commented how much more professional txs was, and that Erik should have just waited for TXS.
There are many other shops like this, i just use txs as one example, i suggest you try somewhere else and see what i am talking about.. i am sorry you feel i am talking out of my *** but i do have experience with this..
Originally Posted by mikesevo8
Agreed. That is my sons case. Not interested in spending hours squeezing out every last HP.
He has a life that doesn't revolve around his car.
My question is - what's wrong with that ???
How does that make those people less human ??? less intelligent ???
He has a life that doesn't revolve around his car.
My question is - what's wrong with that ???
How does that make those people less human ??? less intelligent ???
Originally Posted by mikesevo8
Agreed. That is my sons case. Not interested in spending hours squeezing out every last HP.
He has a life that doesn't revolve around his car.
My question is - what's wrong with that ???
How does that make those people less human ??? less intelligent ???
He has a life that doesn't revolve around his car.
My question is - what's wrong with that ???
How does that make those people less human ??? less intelligent ???
I have a life out side of my car, i have a fiance' but my car and my frieds cars are a BIG part of my life, weather it be wrenching on them, tuning them etc.. I love cars and 6 days out of the week i am working on my car or a firends car..
I say that about the reflash customers because "generaly" they opt for the flash because they KNOW they do not know much about cars and want to leave it to a "pro".. But you have to make sure the PRO knows what he is going also.. A mechanic and a tuner has you in the position to **** you left and right.. You bring your car to a mechanic and he says you need xx a part to make your car run again, are you in the position to argue with him if you dont know either way what you need..
OMG its the classic Al in this thread again. Bashing people instead of their facts and arguement and bashing products! DID YOU GUYS MISS THIS OR SOMETHING? Al is ALWAYS quick to blame things for the weak power his customers get. He Blames the manual boost controller on MANY occasions. In many cases you have seen here. he blames the HALLMAN MANUAL BOOST CONTROLLER! Whats wrong with this? it's the ONLY boost controller he recommends and the ONLY one he SELLS HIMSELF on his site. http://www.dynoflash.com/products.htm
He even had the nerve to argue with me about the different types of hallman mbc's. Some of you probably heard us argueing about it at Meet #12 at XS engineering when he said that the Hallman Pro RX mbc i had was junk and i needed the hallman Pro. He said that there is no such thing as the hallman pro rx, the rx was not a "pro" and therefore sucks. He said "Look, I'm a distrubutor for hallman i know what im talking about? oh really? http://www.boostcontroller.com/index...26category%3D5 explain this to me? Just because its the ONLY ONE YOU SELL, doesnt mean its the best. And just because the one I have isnt the one you sell, doesnt mean it sucks. Al even posted a long post about me having a horrible driving record and the LAPD Profiling me and all of the thousands of LAPD officers knew me personally. RIiight. Where did u get this information btw Al? Are you LAPD? Did you somehow go through my driving record? i would love to see these phantom tickets and rediculous claims. I've gotten 1 traffic ticket in my life and that was 2 and a half years ago. He also stated my car wasnt making power because i was selling my car and didnt care about fixing it. If you ask anyone from socal evo that knows me, they will tell u I'm STILL buying new parts for it on a weekly basis and have not changed my car maintenance habbits one bit. Seems like Al's lying is just as horrible as his tuning, both without any merrit or reality.
He even had the nerve to argue with me about the different types of hallman mbc's. Some of you probably heard us argueing about it at Meet #12 at XS engineering when he said that the Hallman Pro RX mbc i had was junk and i needed the hallman Pro. He said that there is no such thing as the hallman pro rx, the rx was not a "pro" and therefore sucks. He said "Look, I'm a distrubutor for hallman i know what im talking about? oh really? http://www.boostcontroller.com/index...26category%3D5 explain this to me? Just because its the ONLY ONE YOU SELL, doesnt mean its the best. And just because the one I have isnt the one you sell, doesnt mean it sucks. Al even posted a long post about me having a horrible driving record and the LAPD Profiling me and all of the thousands of LAPD officers knew me personally. RIiight. Where did u get this information btw Al? Are you LAPD? Did you somehow go through my driving record? i would love to see these phantom tickets and rediculous claims. I've gotten 1 traffic ticket in my life and that was 2 and a half years ago. He also stated my car wasnt making power because i was selling my car and didnt care about fixing it. If you ask anyone from socal evo that knows me, they will tell u I'm STILL buying new parts for it on a weekly basis and have not changed my car maintenance habbits one bit. Seems like Al's lying is just as horrible as his tuning, both without any merrit or reality.
Last edited by XRS-Lift; Sep 7, 2004 at 09:57 AM.
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Just for the record - me and the guys at Pruven go way back and we have a great time during these dyno days - telling all sorts of off color jokes - laughing and making fun of others and ourselves. The Dyno Flush name got its start from some obnoxious post on this forum at one point or another and we all laugh about that and other things.
I love to tell them "its time to get flushing" when its time to get moving on the dyno - its all just humorous fun.
The main thing is we all have a great time doing for work what we love to do and we laugh and tell lots of jokes.
I love to tell them "its time to get flushing" when its time to get moving on the dyno - its all just humorous fun.
The main thing is we all have a great time doing for work what we love to do and we laugh and tell lots of jokes.
I would like to ask anyone that I hold any sway with (friends, Vishnu folks, and the general Evom brotherhood) to please refrain from any personal attacks, rumor spreading, and unsupported opinions.
Az3ar, why don't you tell your specific story about your dealing with Al. Knowing how you feel about Al, I would guess you would like to see this thread "Live long and prosper." Instead, your posts will do more to get this thread locked and buried.
Az3ar, why don't you tell your specific story about your dealing with Al. Knowing how you feel about Al, I would guess you would like to see this thread "Live long and prosper." Instead, your posts will do more to get this thread locked and buried.
Finally the truth has come.
I am sooo tired of explaining. I could keep writing and writing all day long. I just can’t do that I have my life and I have my job. Short story AL took my money never send it back, bad mouthed me, and lied to me about smooth tuning bro. Made me buy every dam injector on the market 660,680 and 750. My car ran like **** way rich. When I called him he said my car will run like a kitten, I saw a lion instead. On top all that was rude so rude.
I am sooo tired of explaining. I could keep writing and writing all day long. I just can’t do that I have my life and I have my job. Short story AL took my money never send it back, bad mouthed me, and lied to me about smooth tuning bro. Made me buy every dam injector on the market 660,680 and 750. My car ran like **** way rich. When I called him he said my car will run like a kitten, I saw a lion instead. On top all that was rude so rude.
Last edited by Az3ar; Sep 7, 2004 at 10:11 AM.
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
That is how we tune - that is the kind of service we provide and that is the product we deliver.
I am proud of what we provided this guy and his friend - it was done at a very reasonable special price of $375 with the dyno time and the results were very good.
I am proud of what we provided this guy and his friend - it was done at a very reasonable special price of $375 with the dyno time and the results were very good.
As a side note i want everyone to remember what Al told me himself at the evo meet #12. And i quote " Why are you messing around with these kitty **** flashes? Why dont you man up and pay me for a custome tune instead of wasting our time."
Always good to know the guy you just paid $200 to for a product turns around after he has pocketed ur money and calls the product you just bought "kitty ****"



- we can meet up sometime this week