Mail Flash: Ok Or Not?
no one here is saying that an email flash is better than a custom dyno tune. but the email flashes from certain rerspected tuners certainly are not crap, and definitely do give good results. i should know, i had a jestr email flash on my car and was able to dyno it when i was getting my custom tune and it was definitely a decent tune.
Is the postal service safe in Romania and can you catch a fast ball with your eyes closed?
no one here is saying that an email flash is better than a custom dyno tune. but the email flashes from certain rerspected tuners certainly are not crap, and definitely do give good results. i should know, i had a jestr email flash on my car and was able to dyno it when i was getting my custom tune and it was definitely a decent tune.
John is a different story, he knows his ish and is a great tuner.....i wish i could say the same for most of the other e-tuners.
Every tune i have seen from jestr is a good and safe tune.... I have nothing but great things to say about him thus far.
CJ
I've seen some good 'E-tunes' the really good ones are on cars using combinations of parts that are commonly used and therefore probably already have a good starting point.
I personally would never E-tune a car, but I'm a different animal than most. I do understand there is a need and use for these tunes, and they are worth the money if you and the tuner have good communication.
Tuning is just not a "set it and forget it" world, it takes some time to get it right, the difference between a good tuner and a bad tuner is how many times it takes to get it right. Most of us can put a map together that will be fairly safe to use on many different cars, but you lose out on the fine-tuning that you can benefit from.
I have opinions on all the different types of tuning, I generally keep them to myself as they all have a purpose and justifiable reason for why/how their done.
I personally prefer road/track tuning as it allows me to use real world load to make adjustments. Once a car gets too fast, or the type of driving required is not easy to duplicate, then you have to use a dyno to get the tune as close as possible. But I still find it needs adjustment at the track/street.
The worst kind of tunes are boilerplate tunes, basically the one size fits all tunes that are sometimes used. You don't see that as often anymore now that we can flash whenever its necessary, and you don't have to mail your ECU to someone and get a predetermined flash for a predetermined set of mods.
The best answer I can offer you is "You get what you pay for" $50 for an email flash is a bargain, and its a good starting point, and in some cases, from some tuners, the tunes are really close. The problem is unusual parts combinations, its just not possible to do an eflash on those setups and expect to get a decent tune.
I personally would never E-tune a car, but I'm a different animal than most. I do understand there is a need and use for these tunes, and they are worth the money if you and the tuner have good communication.
Tuning is just not a "set it and forget it" world, it takes some time to get it right, the difference between a good tuner and a bad tuner is how many times it takes to get it right. Most of us can put a map together that will be fairly safe to use on many different cars, but you lose out on the fine-tuning that you can benefit from.
I have opinions on all the different types of tuning, I generally keep them to myself as they all have a purpose and justifiable reason for why/how their done.
I personally prefer road/track tuning as it allows me to use real world load to make adjustments. Once a car gets too fast, or the type of driving required is not easy to duplicate, then you have to use a dyno to get the tune as close as possible. But I still find it needs adjustment at the track/street.
The worst kind of tunes are boilerplate tunes, basically the one size fits all tunes that are sometimes used. You don't see that as often anymore now that we can flash whenever its necessary, and you don't have to mail your ECU to someone and get a predetermined flash for a predetermined set of mods.
The best answer I can offer you is "You get what you pay for" $50 for an email flash is a bargain, and its a good starting point, and in some cases, from some tuners, the tunes are really close. The problem is unusual parts combinations, its just not possible to do an eflash on those setups and expect to get a decent tune.
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I've seen some good 'E-tunes' the really good ones are on cars using combinations of parts that are commonly used and therefore probably already have a good starting point.
I personally would never E-tune a car, but I'm a different animal than most. I do understand there is a need and use for these tunes, and they are worth the money if you and the tuner have good communication.
Tuning is just not a "set it and forget it" world, it takes some time to get it right, the difference between a good tuner and a bad tuner is how many times it takes to get it right. Most of us can put a map together that will be fairly safe to use on many different cars, but you lose out on the fine-tuning that you can benefit from.
I have opinions on all the different types of tuning, I generally keep them to myself as they all have a purpose and justifiable reason for why/how their done.
I personally prefer road/track tuning as it allows me to use real world load to make adjustments. Once a car gets too fast, or the type of driving required is not easy to duplicate, then you have to use a dyno to get the tune as close as possible. But I still find it needs adjustment at the track/street.
The worst kind of tunes are boilerplate tunes, basically the one size fits all tunes that are sometimes used. You don't see that as often anymore now that we can flash whenever its necessary, and you don't have to mail your ECU to someone and get a predetermined flash for a predetermined set of mods.
The best answer I can offer you is "You get what you pay for" $50 for an email flash is a bargain, and its a good starting point, and in some cases, from some tuners, the tunes are really close. The problem is unusual parts combinations, its just not possible to do an eflash on those setups and expect to get a decent tune.
I personally would never E-tune a car, but I'm a different animal than most. I do understand there is a need and use for these tunes, and they are worth the money if you and the tuner have good communication.
Tuning is just not a "set it and forget it" world, it takes some time to get it right, the difference between a good tuner and a bad tuner is how many times it takes to get it right. Most of us can put a map together that will be fairly safe to use on many different cars, but you lose out on the fine-tuning that you can benefit from.
I have opinions on all the different types of tuning, I generally keep them to myself as they all have a purpose and justifiable reason for why/how their done.
I personally prefer road/track tuning as it allows me to use real world load to make adjustments. Once a car gets too fast, or the type of driving required is not easy to duplicate, then you have to use a dyno to get the tune as close as possible. But I still find it needs adjustment at the track/street.
The worst kind of tunes are boilerplate tunes, basically the one size fits all tunes that are sometimes used. You don't see that as often anymore now that we can flash whenever its necessary, and you don't have to mail your ECU to someone and get a predetermined flash for a predetermined set of mods.
The best answer I can offer you is "You get what you pay for" $50 for an email flash is a bargain, and its a good starting point, and in some cases, from some tuners, the tunes are really close. The problem is unusual parts combinations, its just not possible to do an eflash on those setups and expect to get a decent tune.
You don't happen to be affiliated with Stage VI motorsports in Jacksonville, do you?
I'm the dyno tuner @ Velocity Trends, when i'm in town. I have done projects for prominate aftermarket companies all over the US though.... I'm not affiliated with one particular company, although i have tuned for many.
It's a well known fact that i have worked for a MAJOR player in the Honda tuning world...... I have said it many times on these boards.
If you want to learn more about me, just PM me. I don't want to go off topic any more than i already have.
CJ
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