Nolift to Shift??
yes, i used it on my 30R and it held 8psi (read from AEM MAP) between the shifts which is just amazing with the no lag! i will take a video of this later. In fact i was messing around revving up to like 6.5K on a roll in neutral then hitting the clutch while part throttle then full throttling it to kick on nlts to see what effect it has if the turbo is not spooled yet and it actually built 4psi without even being in driving or hitting the nlts limit if that makes sense it goes silent then all it is, is turbo spool sound. I can bang gears so much faster! im going to assume here that no one seemed to read my first post about this? absolutly NO ONE responded to it for some reason but i stated the effects on the 30r aswell as speed density ect so look back if anyone cares.
yes, i used it on my 30R and it held 8psi (read from AEM MAP) between the shifts which is just amazing with the no lag! i will take a video of this later. In fact i was messing around revving up to like 6.5K on a roll in neutral then hitting the clutch while part throttle then full throttling it to kick on nlts to see what effect it has if the turbo is not spooled yet and it actually built 4psi without even being in driving or hitting the nlts limit if that makes sense it goes silent then all it is, is turbo spool sound. I can bang gears so much faster! im going to assume here that no one seemed to read my first post about this? absolutly NO ONE responded to it for some reason but i stated the effects on the 30r aswell as speed density ect so look back if anyone cares.
heck yes! Im not kidding when i say its like stock spool up between shifts where you dont really notice it whereas shifting by regular means would result in like a full second or two to spool back up which was rediculous. Its basically night and day as long as you shift fast and your timing is right.
Info thread is up guys:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=297825
Hopefully all the guys that said they would pay for this will donate
hehe
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=297825
Hopefully all the guys that said they would pay for this will donate
hehe
btw.
quick note,
a friend of mine developed a nlts set up using a link ecu a while back on a subaru.
He was tinkering with ignition cut only, and due to a lack of foresight didn't cut fuelling too.
The lack of wastegate aperture meant the well mixed full throttle air with correct fuelling ignited beautifully in the turbo.
This generated massive boost because the wastegate could not vent enough exhaust gas.
The upshot was huge boost in the cylinder, probably great some people think, but the boost was high enough to auto ignite and totally destroyed the engine.
In short, if you do tinker with ignition cut, make sure you fuel cut too.
quick note,
a friend of mine developed a nlts set up using a link ecu a while back on a subaru.
He was tinkering with ignition cut only, and due to a lack of foresight didn't cut fuelling too.
The lack of wastegate aperture meant the well mixed full throttle air with correct fuelling ignited beautifully in the turbo.
This generated massive boost because the wastegate could not vent enough exhaust gas.
The upshot was huge boost in the cylinder, probably great some people think, but the boost was high enough to auto ignite and totally destroyed the engine.
In short, if you do tinker with ignition cut, make sure you fuel cut too.
Can anyone please pm me directions on how to install this? I've read this thread multiple times as to how to install it. I'm still confused, and not a computer expert. Thanks for your patience.
* download your ROMID version
* unzip it
* copy the xml from the appropriate version into your xml defintion file before the </rom> at the end -DELETE ANY CURRENT TEPHRA XML you may have
* copy all of your current maps/settings from your working ROM to the -nlts-mod.bin
* flash the new rom to your car.
* unzip it
* copy the xml from the appropriate version into your xml defintion file before the </rom> at the end -DELETE ANY CURRENT TEPHRA XML you may have
* copy all of your current maps/settings from your working ROM to the -nlts-mod.bin
* flash the new rom to your car.
you guys have me thinking I have to have this patch, but I can't see how you can raise the rpm to rev match or double clutch when downshifting.
so in a normal upshift you have the pedal to the metal, clutch in~clutch out, rpm fell 1500 rpm or so.
so if you release the throttle during a shift can you get the rpms to go as high as you may want? of course you would rethrottle.
in the current configuration the nlts only engages when the tps is at 100%? if that were the case one could simply make sure they had reduced throttle before the shift,
thus defeating the nlts.
whoa! could you configure a patch to raise the rpms during a shift if the brake was engaged?
so in a normal upshift you have the pedal to the metal, clutch in~clutch out, rpm fell 1500 rpm or so.
so if you release the throttle during a shift can you get the rpms to go as high as you may want? of course you would rethrottle.
in the current configuration the nlts only engages when the tps is at 100%? if that were the case one could simply make sure they had reduced throttle before the shift,
thus defeating the nlts.
whoa! could you configure a patch to raise the rpms during a shift if the brake was engaged?
i rev match every downshift and set mine to 85% so i cant do the usual flooring it to rev match quickly to slow from a fast speed i just push the gas far enough to just not hit the cut and it works fine once you get used to it. Like tephra said though you will hit it in regular driving if your not carful and have a lead foot like us lol.
So I finally got this patch to work well thanks to cossie1. I went to experiment and I have a few little weird things to go over:
1) I have the lower clutch switch unplugged so I do not have to clutch in during starts. It doesn't seem to affect the NLTS?
2) Valet mode is badass
3) CE knock is pretty cool, but for some reason on a short pull 1-2 the CEL goes off like mad (4 counts of knock according to the logger) It got me worried... but on 3rd gear to redline and into 4th it's not knocking. I'll have to examine my logs some more.. anyone experience high knock on the first few gears?
4) The <30mph thing I might have to play with. It seems the car hits a wall at 4.5K RPM ish in the first few gears.. kind of annoyed me like something is not working quite right. I'm going to double check my ROMS again to make sure I didn't futz with the wrong setting.
So, any inputs on the latter 2 things? It doesn't seem like the lower clutch switch makes a change to any of the features, but the high knock counts as well as the bogging in 1-2 gear is not quite right.
1) I have the lower clutch switch unplugged so I do not have to clutch in during starts. It doesn't seem to affect the NLTS?
2) Valet mode is badass
3) CE knock is pretty cool, but for some reason on a short pull 1-2 the CEL goes off like mad (4 counts of knock according to the logger) It got me worried... but on 3rd gear to redline and into 4th it's not knocking. I'll have to examine my logs some more.. anyone experience high knock on the first few gears?
4) The <30mph thing I might have to play with. It seems the car hits a wall at 4.5K RPM ish in the first few gears.. kind of annoyed me like something is not working quite right. I'm going to double check my ROMS again to make sure I didn't futz with the wrong setting.
So, any inputs on the latter 2 things? It doesn't seem like the lower clutch switch makes a change to any of the features, but the high knock counts as well as the bogging in 1-2 gear is not quite right.
mine bogged on me tonight going from 1st to 2nd. Once I shifted and let the clutch out, it started to climb in rpm's for a second and then started bogging down a LOT. I know Dave said that if you dont let the clutch out alllll the way, the switch is still active so the NLTS is still lowering the rev's toward its target setting. I'll do some more field testing tomorrow and see if its user error or if its something we should look into.
Can't find anything fishy with my logs.. just to try I just floored it to try to peg the rev limiter in 1st but it would bog at exactly 4300 rpm. Same with 2nd gear... 3rd gear I ran out of time to play
Foot was WELL away from my clutch pedal.
Still wondering what conditions tonight is any different. Looking at my older logs I've never knocked in 1-2 gears. Maybe it's the humidity tonight/heat. Making some progress!
Foot was WELL away from my clutch pedal.Still wondering what conditions tonight is any different. Looking at my older logs I've never knocked in 1-2 gears. Maybe it's the humidity tonight/heat. Making some progress!






