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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nashou66
Any Advice on my Post # 1012

Athanasios
looks pretty smooth. My main suggestion would be to take out some the <100 load columns and add some columns above 100 to give you greater resolution during spoolup and/or peak torque. You may also want to take your last load column out to 280 or 300 depending on how much boost you're running. So you're load columns could look something like this:

10, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100, 110, 120, 130, 140, 150, 160, 170, 180, 200, 220, 240, 260, 280

The other thing you could do is convert to a Tephra V7 ROM with the big maps. That will give you lots of load columns to play with

Whatever you dedcide to do, try to keep the same resolution on both timing and fuel maps and be careful when changing the load columns or converting to V7 that you don't mess up your tune.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian0611
looks pretty smooth. My main suggestion would be to take out some the <100 load columns and add some columns above 100 to give you greater resolution during spoolup and/or peak torque.
If you change the load columns below 80load, then you will also need to edit the:

High oct EGR advance
Low coolant temp timing trim
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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hahaha! I don't know how that dude doesn't have 4 windows in his block! Strongest 4G63 block in the world!!!!
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 01:47 PM
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hahaha! I don't know how that dude doesn't have 4 windows in his block! Strongest 4G63 block in the world!!!!
LMAO!

That map is far to aggressive for 91 oct. How is that car still in one piece? Are you sure you didn't post up an e85 map?

Rick B.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
12 AFR on 93 oct? This is horrible advice.

I can pretty much say .3 AFR is not going to make a noticable enough power change to warrant that danger.

How do u figure this is horrible advice.?

Not trying to get into a pissing match, but the guy obviously wants power. Didnt know he didnt even have a dp or anything though...

I have picked up 30 whp/tq on some setups with fuel changes. But hey, its up to the end user to do what they feel comfortable with.

No disrespect to u, but dontsay im giving horrible advice just because you dont agree with it.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BillSpec
How do u figure this is horrible advice.?

Not trying to get into a pissing match, but the guy obviously wants power. Didnt know he didnt even have a dp or anything though...

I have picked up 30 whp/tq on some setups with fuel changes. But hey, its up to the end user to do what they feel comfortable with.

No disrespect to u, but dontsay im giving horrible advice just because you dont agree with it.
12.0 on 93 oct is not good advice.

Leaning it out another .3 AFR isnt gonna make much more power, if any. All it will do is risk safety.

Since its risk safety, its not good advice to be giving.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BillSpec
How do u figure this is horrible advice.?

Not trying to get into a pissing match, but the guy obviously wants power. Didnt know he didnt even have a dp or anything though...

I have picked up 30 whp/tq on some setups with fuel changes. But hey, its up to the end user to do what they feel comfortable with.

No disrespect to u, but dontsay im giving horrible advice just because you dont agree with it.
It's horrible advice because leaning it out .3 from 11.7 to 12.0 won't gain any power that is worth living in that danger zone on pump gas. It's wreckless advice.

Even 11.5 to 12.0 won't give enough power to warrant the safety difference between the two and it sure as heck won't even make close to 30whp more. Maybe 3-5whp, that's a bit more realistic.

I'm not disagreeing that fuel changes can make horsepower, but it's more when you are shifted more towards running the car really rich and then leaning it out to a more sensible AFR.

I'm sorry, but I found your post irresponsible to people that are trying to learn how to safely tune their own cars.

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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BigT
Yes. 93 Octane.

I was afraid of adding more timing but i'll give it a shot. You don't think I have too much during peak torque? Yes, my AFR map is still a work in progress. I usually set boost, then timing, and leave AFR for last.

I will be installing my downpipe and o2 housing this coming weekend. Once those are on, I can start finalizing the tune.
Set boost low, adjust fuel, then timing, then boost higher, fuel, then timing.

Finalize fuel...

After reading your post, install your parts then tinker with ign adv. You will pick up tq with your dp to put your setup to almost where its supposed to be. Pk looks good. Pull a degree or 2 out and if it doesnt lose power then I would leave it. But its about right. Numbers are decent for stock dp. Good job.

Btw I was saying you can taper to 12 around redline, there are tons of cars on 93 down here running agressive fueling, but note, it is agressive.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian0611
looks pretty smooth. My main suggestion would be to take out some the <100 load columns and add some columns above 100 to give you greater resolution during spoolup and/or peak torque. You may also want to take your last load column out to 280 or 300 depending on how much boost you're running. So you're load columns could look something like this:

10, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100, 110, 120, 130, 140, 150, 160, 170, 180, 200, 220, 240, 260, 280

The other thing you could do is convert to a Tephra V7 ROM with the big maps. That will give you lots of load columns to play with

Whatever you dedcide to do, try to keep the same resolution on both timing and fuel maps and be careful when changing the load columns or converting to V7 that you don't mess up your tune.
Thanks for the response. I wanted to do this but I don't feel comfortable changing my 0011 ROM to the ones that work for v7. I have that ROM that is limited in memory . I was thinking of just using that section of his ROM . I still am learning and this is my daily Driver so I don't like having much down time on her.

Originally Posted by Boosted Tuning
If you change the load columns below 80load, then you will also need to edit the:

High oct EGR advance
Low coolant temp timing trim
See this is where my inexperience shows. What does this entail and would these changes be made automatically if I copy the tephra big map section?

If some one has this big maps section already separated from his rom it be really helpful if they post it or PM me it.

Thanks for the help guys this forum has some very smart people on it, I love it!

Athanasios
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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Thank you for yours and everyone else's help. I'll post back once the downpipe is on.


Originally Posted by BillSpec
Set boost low, adjust fuel, then timing, then boost higher, fuel, then timing.

Finalize fuel...

After reading your post, install your parts then tinker with ign adv. You will pick up tq with your dp to put your setup to almost where its supposed to be. Pk looks good. Pull a degree or 2 out and if it doesnt lose power then I would leave it. But its about right. Numbers are decent for stock dp. Good job.

Btw I was saying you can taper to 12 around redline, there are tons of cars on 93 down here running agressive fueling, but note, it is agressive.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Nashou66
Thanks for the response. I wanted to do this but I don't feel comfortable changing my 0011 ROM to the ones that work for v7. I have that ROM that is limited in memory . I was thinking of just using that section of his ROM . I still am learning and this is my daily Driver so I don't like having much down time on her.



See this is where my inexperience shows. What does this entail and would these changes be made automatically if I copy the tephra big map section?

If some one has this big maps section already separated from his rom it be really helpful if they post it or PM me it.

Thanks for the help guys this forum has some very smart people on it, I love it!

Athanasios
When using the Tephra BIG MAPS ROM, the BIG MAPS load columns dont affect the other timing/fuel maps, so any load column changes are fine.

If your talking about implementing the BIG MAPS into your ROM, it woudl all depend on how you integrated them.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RALLInspired
LMAO!

That map is far to aggressive for 91 oct. How is that car still in one piece? Are you sure you didn't post up an e85 map?

Rick B.
I would totally laugh to if it wasnt my car . I actually paid money for this from a "reputable shop " since then I have started tuning myself. Sad part is I can do better already. I'm surprised my car isn't blown up...
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by murkdevo
I would totally laugh to if it wasnt my car . I actually paid money for this from a "reputable shop " since then I have started tuning myself. Sad part is I can do better already. I'm surprised my car isn't blown up...
At this point you might as well post who this "reputable shop" is...
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by murkdevo
I would totally laugh to if it wasnt my car . I actually paid money for this from a "reputable shop " since then I have started tuning myself. Sad part is I can do better already. I'm surprised my car isn't blown up...
Ziptie, monoa racing, turbo labs?

Pm me if you want to keep it quiet....
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by b16a2delsol
Ziptie, monoa racing, turbo labs?

Pm me if you want to keep it quiet....
Its one in colorado.

I'm in the process of helping him out.
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