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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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I'm trying to work in an Uego to be used with this but, I'm having a little difficulty figuring out the Eval formula. Per the documents that come with the Uego under the calibration portion it notes some Cal Table info that is to be inputed into a EMS. The table shows O2 volts/Lamba/Gasoline AFR/various other fuels.

It shows at 0 O2 volts the Gasoline AFR is 10.00 and than at 4.99 O2 volts the Gasoline AFR is 19.98.

It would appear than that the formula for the Uego should be :

(19.98-10.0)/255*x + 9.0 = 0.03914*x + 9.0

Does that look right??
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(19.98-10.0)/255*x + 10.0 = 0.03914*x + 10.0
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by evo8dad
It shows at 0 O2 volts the Gasoline AFR is 10.00 and than at 4.99 O2 volts the Gasoline AFR is 19.98.

It would appear than that the formula for the Uego should be :

(19.98-10.0)/255*x + 9.0 = 0.03914*x + 9.0

Does that look right??
Your formula would be:

0.03914*x + 10.0


That's assuming that a reading of 255=4.99V

Edit: mrfred just beat me to it
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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Ah I meant to add the 10 in there, just forgot. Thanks guys, much appreciated.
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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By the way what does the 255 value represent?
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by evo8dad
By the way what does the 255 value represent?
The voltage signal from the AFR sensor is digitized by the ECU. The ADC converter in the Evo ECU can digitize a value up to 5 V, with 5 V = 255.
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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Cool, thanks for the explanation
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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I'm logging the Uego now through MUT12 but, the response rate is REALLY slow plus the log doesn't match what the gauge is showing me? Any suggestions??
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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have u got 10 and 19.98 right?
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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I think I have it right, not sure exactly what/where you mean?? I used the values 10 and 19.98 in the formula to determine the correct Eval formula but, where else would it be used?

I did notice from looking over the EVOScan .xml file that the "External Wideband A/F Ratio" line differs from the new entry I added for this patch to read the wideband hardwired through the rear O2 sensor ADC.

The last bit of the entry for the "External Wideband A/F Ratio" line reads:

GAUGEMAX="60" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="60" ScalingFactor="10"

The entry for the hardwired wideband entry reads:

GaugeMax="22" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="22" ScalingFactor="1"

That is the only difference I see. Could this be the issue in difference between what the Uego gauge is showing versus what is showing in EVOScan from the Uego O2 sensor?
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by evo8dad
I'm trying to work in an Uego to be used with this but, I'm having a little difficulty figuring out the Eval formula. Per the documents that come with the Uego under the calibration portion it notes some Cal Table info that is to be inputed into a EMS. The table shows O2 volts/Lamba/Gasoline AFR/various other fuels.

It shows at 0 O2 volts the Gasoline AFR is 10.00 and than at 4.99 O2 volts the Gasoline AFR is 19.98.

It would appear than that the formula for the Uego should be :

(19.98-10.0)/255*x + 9.0 = 0.03914*x + 9.0

Does that look right??
See the reference sheets I have here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/6384799-post94.html
(the have the values and formula built in for the UEGO)

You may want to adjust your values slightly if you can log both serial and analog.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 09:56 AM
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Good info thanks. I assume than this means I need to adjust the formula I came up with of 0.03914*x + 10.0 by 0.14423 (I rounded it off)? Next question would be do I add or subtract that figure from the formula?
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 03:46 AM
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Hello Mrfred

instead of using the pin of the rear O2, is it possible to use the pin 64 in the Evo IX?

Pin 64 is declared as ADC input 0-5V with 5V=255, and it seems unused in the code.

How would your patch be changed for that?

Thanks

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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 04:31 AM
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whats wrong with the rear02? why dont you want to use it?
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 04:51 AM
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Basically nothing, but I'm not sure it is free in my version 88840017.

If we could use the ADC which is not occupied it is safer.

I'm not 100% sure that my EVO doesn't have a rear O2 though
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by mlocatel
Basically nothing, but I'm not sure it is free in my version 88840017.

If we could use the ADC which is not occupied it is safer.

I'm not 100% sure that my EVO doesn't have a rear O2 though
Pin 64 is used for tephra's map switching.

Its not hard to figure out whether pin 73 is used for anything. Best way would be to have a look in the factory service manual for your car. Second best is to pull the ECU plugs and look to see whether a wire runs into the connector hole for that pin.
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