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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 01:03 PM
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buddy helps me port this patch from 8859 to 8858.

i have only one idea how to test - use Evo Live Map. so i patched this rom with DMA.

so... it's work. i can't tell you well or not, but work.
if someone want check and can test - you are welcome

in fact afr swingign on idle. if i set 14.7 - 13.8-15.5, if i set 15.6 - 14.7-17
i haven't enought time to much testing. i can't say that with zt2 o2 simaluation afr much solid or not. seems +|- same.

i'm not 100% sure in right port.

afr can log from MUT3C and MUT12

mrfred, do i need disable o2 rear sim in v7 tephra options?
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Old Feb 14, 2016 | 02:43 PM
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Implemented this yesterday and all appears to be working fairly well.

Cruise AFR set to 15.4 and I"m getting swings from 14.7 to 15.9.

The only problem I see is much slower cycling times, in fact slow enough to trigger a P0133 Slow 02 response code daily.

Any way to speed this up or is entirely dependent on the speed of my Uego?
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
Implemented this yesterday and all appears to be working fairly well.

Cruise AFR set to 15.4 and I"m getting swings from 14.7 to 15.9.

The only problem I see is much slower cycling times, in fact slow enough to trigger a P0133 Slow 02 response code daily.

Any way to speed this up or is entirely dependent on the speed of my Uego?
Where is the uego in the exhaust tract? How far from turbine outlet ?
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 211ratsbud
Where is the uego in the exhaust tract? How far from turbine outlet ?
Good point, it's in the test pipe location!

So I guess I can either move it, or find a way to disable the p0133 code and see what the mileage looks like.
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 11:28 PM
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So we would want to move our wideband sensor up to the O2 housing, correct?
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 03:28 AM
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Hi everybody.

Does someone have patched 8858 rom?
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Old Apr 3, 2016 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
Good point, it's in the test pipe location!

So I guess I can either move it, or find a way to disable the p0133 code and see what the mileage looks like.
Moved mine to front o2 location, no change, still triggering the dtc.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 12:43 AM
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Could someone please help me out?
I am trying to add everything to the 88590015, it showed up on my rom although I seem to be doing something wrong:

**I apologize in advance, I am a total noob. All this makes my head spin and I am trying to get around.

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<table name="Closed Loop Wideband On/Off" category="Front/Rear_02" address="7FC0" type="1D" level="1" scaling="uint8"/>
<table name="Cold Engine Closed Loop AFR" category="Front/Rear_02" address="7FC2" type="1D" level="1" scaling="AFR16"/>
<table name="Min Coolant Temp To Use AFR Table" category="Front/Rear_02" address="7FC4" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Temp"/>
<table name="Wideband AFR Correlation 1/mL Value" category="Front/Rear_02" address="7FC6" type="1D" level="1" scaling="mLinverse"/>
<table name="Wideband AFR Correlation bL/mL Value" category="Front/Rear_02" address="7FC8" type="1D" level="1" scaling="uint16"/>
<table name="AFR Table Multiplier High Word" category="Front/Rear_02" address="7FCC" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="AFR Table Multiplier Low Word" category="Front/Rear_02" address="7FCE" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="Front O2 (ADC 04) RAM variable" category="Front/Rear_02" address="AA0E" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="Rear O2 (ADC 0A) RAM variable" category="Front/Rear_02" address="AA0A" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="MUT12 Value (To Read Wideband)" category="Front/Rear_02" address="3624A" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="MUT19 Value (To Read Front O2 ADC)" category="Front/Rear_02" address="36266" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Hex16"/>

<table name="ADC Value Mod Hook" category="Front/Rear_02" address="C250" type="3D" level="1" scaling="Hex16">
    <table name="Code" type="Static X Axis" elements="1" scaling="Hex16">
        Hex16
    </table>
    <table name="Address" type="Static Y Axis" elements="10">
        C250
        C252
        C254
        C256
        C258
        C25A
        C25C
        C25E
        C260
        C262
    </table>
</table>

<table name="Hook For Closed Loop Pulse Control Hex" category="Front/Rear_02" address="182E4" type="3D" level="1" scaling="Hex16">
    <table name="Code" type="Static X Axis" elements="1">
        Hex16
    </table>
    <table name="Address" type="Static Y Axis" elements="8">
        182E4
        182E6
        182E8
        182EA
        182EC
        182EE
        182F0
        182E2
    </table>
</table>

<table name="Front/Rear 02 Sim Subroutine Part 1" category="Front/Rear_02" address="47F00" type="3D" level="1" scaling="Hex16">
    <table name="Code" type="Static X Axis" elements="1" scaling="Hex16">
        Hex16
    </table>
    <table name="Address" type="Static Y Axis" elements="40">
        47F00
        47F02
        47F04
        47F06
        47F08
        47F0A
        47F0C
        47F0E
        47F10
        47F12
        47F14
        47F16
        47F18
        47F1A
        47F1C
        47F1E
        47F20
        47F22
        47F24
        47F26
        47F28
        47F2A
        47F2C
        47F2E
        47F30
        47F32
        47F34
        47F36
        47F38
        47F3A
        47F3C
        47F3E
        47F40
        47F42
        47F44
        47F46
        47F48
        47F4A
        47F4C
        47F4AE
    </table>
</table>

<table name="Front/Rear 02 Sim Subroutine Part 2" category="Front/Rear_02" address="47F50" type="3D" level="1" scaling="Hex16">
    <table name="Code" type="Static X Axis" elements="1">
        Hex16
    </table>
    <table name="Address" type="Static Y Axis" elements="40">
        47F50
        47F52
        47F54
        47F56
        47F58
        47F5A
        47F5C
        47F5E
        47F60
        47F62
        47F64
        47F66
        47F68
        47F6A
        47F6C
        47F6E
        47F70
        47F72
        47F74
        47F76
        47F78
        47F7A
        47F7C
        47F7E
        47F80
        47F82
        47F84
        47F86
        47F88
        47F8A
        47F8C
        47F8E
        47F90
        47F92
        47F94
        47F96
        47F98
        47F9A
        47F9C
        47F9E
    </table>
</table>

<table name="Front/Rear 02 Sim Subroutine Part 3" category="Front/Rear_02" address="47FA0" type="3D" level="1" scaling="Hex16">
    <table name="Code" type="Static X Axis" elements="1">
        Hex16
    </table>
    <table name="Address" type="Static Y Axis" elements="18">
        47FA0
        47FA2
        47FA4
        47FA6
        47FA8
        47FAA
        47FAC
        47FAE
        47FB0
        47FB2
        47FB4
        47FB6
        47FB8
        47FBA
        47FBC
        47FBE
        47FC0
        47FC2
    </table>
</table>

<table name="Closed Loop Fuel Pulse Control Subroutine" category="Front/Rear_02" address="47FC4" type="3D" level="1" scaling="Hex16">
    <table name="Code" type="Static X Axis" elements="1">
        Hex16
    </table>
    <table name="Address" type="Static Y Axis" elements="16">
        47FC4
        47FC6
        47FC8
        47FCA
        47FCC
        47FCE
        47FD0
        47FD2
        47FD4
        47FD6
        47FD8
        47FDA
        47FDC
        47FDE
        47FE0
        47FE2
    </table>
</table> 

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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
Implemented this yesterday and all appears to be working fairly well.

Cruise AFR set to 15.4 and I"m getting swings from 14.7 to 15.9.

The only problem I see is much slower cycling times, in fact slow enough to trigger a P0133 Slow 02 response code daily.

Any way to speed this up or is entirely dependent on the speed of my Uego?
Moved the sensor to the stock front location in the o2 housing with no improvement.

Trying to decide between buying a new sensor or replacing the system.

Are others getting fast cycling using an AEM Uego?
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by VGergo
I played a lot with the patch and the sensors . With the stock NB and without the patch the closed loop afr is so tight at 14.7 !

With the patch and aem uego sensor in downpipe bend after the o2 house cause quite large oscillations with the same setup ! Swing between 13.5-15.7 all of the time .

Moved the Uego sensor in O2 replace the front stock NB to see the result. Oscillations maybe a bit tighter but quite large compare with the stock NB .

Fuel trims were different in every 3 situation. STFT oscillating least with the stock NB .

Any update against the oscillations would be cool

I have the same problem with an older sensor, how old is your sensor?

I'm thinking of buying a new sensor, but would rather get a new WB02 system if the Uego is simply lacking the speed required for this mod.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by travman
Yes it works with the V7 - I setup the patch to do some testing, i am back to the narrow band now but it did work.
Why did you revert back to the NB, was it due to slow Uego response?
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
Moved the sensor to the stock front location in the o2 housing with no improvement.

Trying to decide between buying a new sensor or replacing the system.

Are others getting fast cycling using an AEM Uego?
I am having this issue also, fresh sensor. My 02 sensor is about 18" from the turbine outlet. I also wondered if putting it closer would help, but based on what you say it won't.
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
I have the same problem with an older sensor, how old is your sensor?

I'm thinking of buying a new sensor, but would rather get a new WB02 system if the Uego is simply lacking the speed required for this mod.
It was a while ago but I was using a UEGO during the original testing of the mod. It worked fine.
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fostytou
It was a while ago but I was using a UEGO during the original testing of the mod. It worked fine.
So how do we explain wreckleford issue with a new sensor and still using a Uego?


Not doubting you, just do not want to waste money if it won't help.
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Old Apr 24, 2016 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by wreckleford
I am having this issue also, fresh sensor. My 02 sensor is about 18" from the turbine outlet. I also wondered if putting it closer would help, but based on what you say it won't.
Closer will always help tighten the oscillations, but make sure the sensor doesn't get overheated. WBO2 sensors cannot tolerate as much heat has a NB sensor. Innovate claims that their WBO2 sensor control software is much faster than the competitors.
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