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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 06:06 AM
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Tephra, GREAT STUFF! I am really looking forward to this!
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 07:00 AM
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Would it be possible to use one of the 6 columns for when the car is not moving....stationary rev limiter?
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mfr122887
Would it be possible to use one of the 6 columns for when the car is not moving....stationary rev limiter?
what would you need that for?
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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So you can run 100% duty cycle to get more boost. Not really that important but the column is going to be wasted anyway on a 5sp so it was just a suggestion to a possible use.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mfr122887
So you can run 100% duty cycle to get more boost. Not really that important but the column is going to be wasted anyway on a 5sp so it was just a suggestion to a possible use.

I really like that idea! Unfortunetly I don't think my clutch and drivetrain would.....

Still, a great idea and would be something to consider if it can be done easily with this mod....

~Zach
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 07:53 AM
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Wow this past week has been amazing. If your sitting back and thing its not a big deal between the knock code understanding and this you need a reality check. We can now do more with the stock ecu than multi thousand dollar standalones could 5 years ago. Not only that but it retains turn key reliability and drive ability.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dan l
Wow this past week has been amazing. If your sitting back and thing its not a big deal between the knock code understanding and this you need a reality check. We can now do more with the stock ecu than multi thousand dollar standalones could 5 years ago. Not only that but it retains turn key reliability and drive ability.
not to mention the ability to pass inspection!
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dan l
Wow this past week has been amazing. If your sitting back and thing its not a big deal between the knock code understanding and this you need a reality check. We can now do more with the stock ecu than multi thousand dollar standalones could 5 years ago. Not only that but it retains turn key reliability and drive ability.
Makes me want to grab a box of beer and celebrate.......
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Found something interesting in comparing the Evo 10 USDM GSR and the USDM MR maps:

The GSR isn't using the gear-dependent boost but it looks like the MR is in the form of bringing down the boost via the BDEL table (WGDC tables are the same)

Mrfred, does this look it's limiting it in 1st and 2nd gear in the MR according to that RPM/MPH crossover on the MR?

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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Found something interesting in comparing the Evo 10 USDM GSR and the USDM MR maps:

The GSR isn't using the gear-dependent boost but it looks like the MR is in the form of bringing down the boost via the BDEL table (WGDC tables are the same)

Mrfred, does this look it's limiting it in 1st and 2nd gear in the MR according to that RPM/MPH crossover on the MR?

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I attached an Excel workbook with the rpm/mph values for the USDM Evo Xs (2nd tab in the workbook). It looks like for both the GSR and the MR, the crossover is between 1st and 2nd gear, so only 1st gear is using the Low Gear Range tables.

Interestingly, for the GSR, Mitsu put the crossover between 1st and 2nd gear, but the high and low gear range tables are the same. For the Evo 8/9, Mitsu put the crossover way above 1st gear.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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Oh I didn't see that you put the Evo X in your worksheet, thanks!
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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Oh I didn't see that you put the Evo X in your worksheet, thanks!
Just added it a few minutes ago. The earlier copy doesn't have it. :-)
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Just added it a few minutes ago. The earlier copy doesn't have it. :-)
Ah ok, thought I was going crazy, thanks for adding that!

So it looks with the OEM tune, the MR uses less boost only in 1st and only around peak torque, after 5500 rpm, it's the same.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Ah ok, thought I was going crazy, thanks for adding that!

So it looks with the OEM tune, the MR uses less boost only in 1st and only around peak torque, after 5500 rpm, it's the same.
Yep. Maybe change the crossover to between 2nd/3rd, and add more boost in 1st/2nd gear than other gears. In 1st/2nd gear, the tires will spin before the clutch slips. :-))))
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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So the coarseness of that variable is becoming a problem, 4th gear pull:



You can see that between 3063 and 3313 rpm the WGDC jumps up and down.

I can only assume this is because the ECU is interpolating to the 3rd gear.

Any ideas?
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