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Old Nov 5, 2019 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
True.. Kalifornia does seem to lead the way, when it comes to stopping global warming (inside joke). I'm all for less smog in certain areas, I guess. Now that you mention it, though, I do seem to remember hearing that NY is following close suit, when it comes to smog stuffs. When you have a crazy-concentrated population I suppose they gotta do something. Any time I'm about to complain about smog, I think of my last drive through L.A.

P.S. 93 > e85, IMO.
CARB actually does good things for California. Just look at old photos of Los Angeles to see. Yes, it's a pain for us car enthusiasts, but CA has beautiful air. Well, not right now since 50% of California is on fire, again.

I've since found out that New Jersey has some of the worst air quality in the USA. :-/

And less E85 than California, ironically. There are four stations in this whole damn state.

And 93 is not better than E85. You are smoking it.


Originally Posted by evo420
So is it possible that even if I flash back to stock that the cvn number will not be correct, due to the fact that I have flashed it probably over a hundred times over the years?
No, if it is a non tampered stock rom than the CVN is good.
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Old Nov 5, 2019 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggiesacks
I don't think inspectors require you to be on the latest ROM ID do they? I would think as long as your CVN matches up with your CAL ID then your good. I'm pretty sure* there are newer rom ID's for my 2011 X, but they didn't say anything about it when I had it inspected.

*not certain though, so I could just be oblivious here.
I'm only going by second or third-party reports that everything had to updated.
I got a notice in the mail today, from my local Honda dealer. It says I have to take my car in to be reflashed. I will be given a notice of completion to send to DMV. Otherwise, I won't be able to smog my car. This is on a 100% stock 2012 Civic that has never been modded nor failed. I'm so glad the Evo is moving out of state.


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Old Nov 5, 2019 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by evo420
I am shocked that this isn’t a bigger issue for more people. Is Cali the only state that requires smog inspection? If there are others I would not be surprised if they follow suit with California on this. Perhaps someone has the ability contact one of the gurus to work on this. I would be willing to donate for this.
Colorado is checking CVNs at some phases of vehicle inspection (I think the equivalent of a ref referral). This will almost certainly become a first-level test in California (and other places) if it has not already, i.e., part of any standard smog inspection.
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Old Nov 5, 2019 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
CARB actually does good things for California. Just look at old photos of Los Angeles to see. Yes, it's a pain for us car enthusiasts, but CA has beautiful air. Well, not right now since 50% of California is on fire, again.
I'm personally torn because I understand why they are cracking down and generally agree with it. That said, I wish I could just pay a carbon tax for my car. I drive it less than 5k a year and I'd be willing to shell out cash every year so I could enjoy my modified vehicle.
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Old Nov 5, 2019 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
I'm only going by second or third-party reports that everything had to updated.
I got a notice in the mail today, from my local Honda dealer. It says I have to take my car in to be reflashed. I will be given a notice of completion to send to DMV. Otherwise, I won't be able to smog my car. This is on a 100% stock 2012 Civic that has never been modded nor failed. I'm so glad the Evo is moving out of state.
If you think that is bad, the FRS/BRZ people that have 2013 models have to get the valve spring recall done in order to renew their registration in California. Yes, the same recall that dealers are messing up and blowing peoples engines up with.
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Old Nov 5, 2019 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by aamoedo
I'm personally torn because I understand why they are cracking down and generally agree with it. That said, I wish I could just pay a carbon tax for my car. I drive it less than 5k a year and I'd be willing to shell out cash every year so I could enjoy my modified vehicle.
Same here. I drove about 1500mi last year. Ridiculous.

Originally Posted by razorlab
If you think that is bad, the FRS/BRZ people that have 2013 models have to get the valve spring recall done in order to renew their registration in California. Yes, the same recall that dealers are messing up and blowing peoples engines up with.
SMDH. A friend of mine drives truck. He had to buy a new rig because CA made it impossible to keep the old one. He says the newer, CA compliant trucks are popping motors left and right because they put cats ave other smog crap on them. He had no choice, though.
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Old Nov 5, 2019 | 03:25 PM
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If this affects me, I will likely buy a scrap 1995 galant, mirage or something similar and just swap vins and register it as a pre-obd2 car.
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Old Nov 5, 2019 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
I'm only going by second or third-party reports that everything had to updated.
I got a notice in the mail today, from my local Honda dealer. It says I have to take my car in to be reflashed. I will be given a notice of completion to send to DMV. Otherwise, I won't be able to smog my car. This is on a 100% stock 2012 Civic that has never been modded nor failed. I'm so glad the Evo is moving out of state.

Damn it's getting real then. Well at least that will make it easier for whom ever ends up implementing a patch since they can just focus on the most current ROM ID's for the different Generations.
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
You will be fine if you flashed back to your ORIGINAL ROM and, as mentioned above, caught up on any updates from Mitsu (I have a IX and would need to go get updated).
The last part "caught up on any updates from Mitsu (I have a IX and would need to go get updated)." is WRONG. Not trying to call you out, but I want to help give people good information.

If you use the same ROM id your car came with the EVO 9 has a few different versions, then you will be fine. You are NOT required to get the newest update, which is as of right now 88590016.

I went through a state referee... aka "strictest cali smog"
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by EV09AWD
The last part "caught up on any updates from Mitsu (I have a IX and would need to go get updated)." is WRONG. Not trying to call you out, but I want to help give people good information.

If you use the same ROM id your car came with the EVO 9 has a few different versions, then you will be fine. You are NOT required to get the newest update, which is as of right now 88590016.

I went through a state referee... aka "strictest cali smog"
Good to know, thanks! That should be helpful for a lot of people and a lot less stress for IX owners.
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Old Jan 30, 2020 | 10:07 PM
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Who knows what recalculates the checksum aka CVN? Is it Evoscan just before it flashes it?
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Old May 3, 2020 | 12:41 PM
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Has anyone in California recently had success passing emissions? I’ve learned more that I care to know about this issue and form my understanding, our vehicles use an “ISO” system versus a “CAN” system which makes it difficult to pass smog; even with “help”.

i haven’t been able to completely renew my registration since there’s no way of passing smog.
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Old May 3, 2020 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by caLi4G63
Has anyone in California recently had success passing emissions? I’ve learned more that I care to know about this issue and form my understanding, our vehicles use an “ISO” system versus a “CAN” system which makes it difficult to pass smog; even with “help”.

i haven’t been able to completely renew my registration since there’s no way of passing smog.
If I were you, I would find a friend or family member that lives out of state where there is no emissions testing, and register the car there. ISO is an older protocol, CAN basically took over in 2008 industry wide. It has nothing to do with the CVN. Hackers need to figure out how to push an arbitrary CVN to the inspection station so we can effectively "lie" to the system.

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Old May 5, 2020 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by caLi4G63
Has anyone in California recently had success passing emissions? I’ve learned more that I care to know about this issue and form my understanding, our vehicles use an “ISO” system versus a “CAN” system which makes it difficult to pass smog; even with “help”.

i haven’t been able to completely renew my registration since there’s no way of passing smog.
Read this post to learn more: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...l#post11828859
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Old May 12, 2020 | 08:24 AM
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Another new person to ECUflash and Tephra. Don't cheer at once.
I'm using ID 94170015, and followed the patch instructions:
Non-Continuous Monitor Completion Patch
@3688E DA2A -> EAFF
@36890 6AA1 -> 6AA7

Non-Continuous Monitor Availability Patch Part 1
@36872 4019 -> E000

Non-Continuous Monitor Availability Patch Part 2
@36888 6AA1 -> EAFF

When doing this, it sets all my values to 1 for table "Monitor Available(1)/Not Available(0)"
If I try to change A/C system refrigerant, Secondary Air System, and Heated catalyst to 0, it forces the following changes:

Non-Continuous Monitor Completion Patch
@3688E EAFF->EAE5
@36890 6AA1 -> 6AA7 - This stays as 6AA7

Non-Continuous Monitor Availability Patch Part 2
@36888 6AA1 -> EAE5

Any help is appreciated. Currently, the only problems I have is the monitors while scanning the car has Cat - N/A, and o2 Sensor - Incomplete (May be from me not driving the car much, and disconnecting the harness to remove the throttle body and intake manifold, and needs driven to reset?). Everything else is reading ready (from previous owner).

EDIT: I'm assuming changing the Monitor Available(1)/Not Available(0) ultimately alters the Non-Continuous Monitor Availability Patch & Part 2, since the patches are for everything to be set to 1. It should be fine to let ecuflash change the values I showed above?

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