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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Of course I would chip in as well.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Appauldd

One final note. Until the factory ECU is fully understood we would be shooting ourselves in the foot for trying to develop known areas and forget about the uncharted territories.

By all means jump to a standalone, you won't hurt anybodys feelings here. If you want to keep *****ing/complaining/moaning however take it somewhere else. I'm sure you are a nice guy and all but honestly keep your "theories" out of it. Many of the people in this very thread have worked on motec, AEM, Haltech, etc.... and your comments are just unrealistic, unacceptable, and uneducated.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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If tephra doesn't get back to this thread by the weekend I say we all paypal him money to guilt him into making extended rpm and load maps for us .
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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what maps are we talking about here?

fuel + timing?
+5 rows of rpm?
+10 columns of load?
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 0xDEAD
By all means jump to a standalone, you won't hurt anybodys feelings here. If you want to keep *****ing/complaining/moaning however take it somewhere else. I'm sure you are a nice guy and all but honestly keep your "theories" out of it. Many of the people in this very thread have worked on motec, AEM, Haltech, etc.... and your comments are just unrealistic, unacceptable, and uneducated.
We are all entitled to voice what we believe. Your comments are completely unwarranted, and unnecessary. I was simply trying to make a point of when will enough be enough for a stock Ecu?

Please refrain from your belittling of others for the sake of your own salvation.

Back to the topic at hand.

If it can be done....go for it. I'll be on the sidelines.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tephra
what maps are we talking about here?

fuel + timing?
+5 rows of rpm?
+10 columns of load?

10 more columns of load??? WOW.

I would love that...let me keep my scaling of 1:1 and still have great resolution.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tephra
what maps are we talking about here?

fuel + timing?
+5 rows of rpm?
+10 columns of load?
wow bigger is better!
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tephra
what maps are we talking about here?

fuel + timing?
+5 rows of rpm?
+10 columns of load?
Yes, yes, and yes.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Load and RPM.

I decided to set my MAP sensor up the right way so I dont look like a hack, but the idea of 400kpa and low resolution is not particularly appetizing. I would definitely take Load before rpm but if I had 5 more of each I'd be golden.

Dave, shoot me some ideas and I will see what the pocket book can finance.
I am with Aaron. Looking for 96530706 + load cells

Using a 5bar map with a small evo 8 map leaves much to be desired.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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this is actually what I'd like to do to my next set up. I can see that the stock ecu will continue to progress and eventually not need to be replace by any standalone. These ecus are now being used in earlier eclipses for this sole reason. Its alot more capable than what most had ever expected, including me.

count me in on the funds. This community has done alot. Thanks to the people who continue to look for ways to make it better.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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ok I will do it... I will let u guys decide if you want to donate

do we need MIVEC done as well?
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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Would extending the main fuel and timing maps affect the other maps using those axis? Or is it possible to just create a new main fuel and timing map then continue using all the stock axis for all the other maps, like the cold start ignition maps?

It would be great if you could more or less leave the sub 200 loads alone to maintain exceptional driveability under all the conditions that aren't "normal operating conditions" in the eyes of the ECU.

Extended 96530706 tables would be on my want list.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 0xDEAD
By all means jump to a standalone, you won't hurt anybodys feelings here. If you want to keep *****ing/complaining/moaning however take it somewhere else. I'm sure you are a nice guy and all but honestly keep your "theories" out of it. Many of the people in this very thread have worked on motec, AEM, Haltech, etc.... and your comments are just unrealistic, unacceptable, and uneducated.
Completely uncalled for, and the highlighted isn't relative to the point Applaud was trying to make. I'm sure many here have worked on those systems, but how many have worked in, or more explicitly developed these systems? If any on here have then they knew exactly what they were doing since they were developing a system from scratch/developing a system for which they knew all parameters/infrastrcuture as opposed to working on an already existing system who's full infrastructure still has not been fully reverse engineered and understood.

I agree with the basic point that Appauldd was trying to make, even if it was a bit too dramatic . Anyway lets watch this and see how it plays out...seems there are lots of guinea pigs here ready and waiting to test this out so just like the previous steps forward, lets see how this plays out .

I'd also really hope that those who are itching for this are sending tephra some money for his hard work
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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I am also in support, and am interested in the testing process, however, not ready to make the jump to the new V7 Tephra ROM. So if the patch is only going to be for that rom ID then I am in support and will watch from the sidlines until I move to the new V7 or we find it in the 94170015 rom. Patience is a virtue I recon...

From what I know of the specs of the factory ECU, there is enough space to double the rom or flash that is loaded via ECUFLash. COBB's handheld proved that. There is the flash that is stored in hard memory, and the flash that is stored in ram. I could be missing something on those specifics, but none the less, the space is there. Can it be a small enough foot print in code to keep the ecu from stressing on the extra read and seek time? It seems that even though the room is there in the hardware storage, are you able to scale the flash memory to include the extra addresses? It sounds as if you are, but just a toss out for geeks. Thats where hardware electronic failure starts...heat.

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