94170715 V7 Issues
Not logging the same mut request as far as I can tell. How else would it be conflicting? The gear and RPM_SPEED_RATIO_AVG was working on my 9653 rom. Pretty much the same evoscan xml.
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I should have checked this thread before I post the exact same problem with 94170715 V7 at another thread.
Do we have any update on this one?
Now I am trying 96530706 V7 instead, but now I am encoutering all the other issues related with fuel as others have tackled for a while. (But other V7 functions including gear based boost control works great)
I know that would be extra efforts from Tephra and other ECU gurus, but it would be greatly appreciated if all the V7 functions work with 94170715 rom.
Do we have any update on this one?
Now I am trying 96530706 V7 instead, but now I am encoutering all the other issues related with fuel as others have tackled for a while. (But other V7 functions including gear based boost control works great)
I know that would be extra efforts from Tephra and other ECU gurus, but it would be greatly appreciated if all the V7 functions work with 94170715 rom.
As for the gear based boost control, you need to make sure to set up the "RPM Speed to Gear" table properly.
00.0000 6
43.3186 5
61.9912 4
84.6903 3
117.301 2
176.195 1
2899.78 0
"Main Map Wastegate Duty" for the 0 and the 6 gear columns should be all 0
Lastly, your MAP sensor must be set up correctly as well.
00.0000 6
43.3186 5
61.9912 4
84.6903 3
117.301 2
176.195 1
2899.78 0
"Main Map Wastegate Duty" for the 0 and the 6 gear columns should be all 0
Lastly, your MAP sensor must be set up correctly as well.
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As for the gear based boost control, you need to make sure to set up the "RPM Speed to Gear" table properly.
00.0000 6
43.3186 5
61.9912 4
84.6903 3
117.301 2
176.195 1
2899.78 0
"Main Map Wastegate Duty" for the 0 and the 6 gear columns should be all 0
Lastly, your MAP sensor must be set up correctly as well.
00.0000 6
43.3186 5
61.9912 4
84.6903 3
117.301 2
176.195 1
2899.78 0
"Main Map Wastegate Duty" for the 0 and the 6 gear columns should be all 0
Lastly, your MAP sensor must be set up correctly as well.
So 94170715 V7 gear base boost control works for you? As chmodlf posted, my RPM_SPEED_RATIO_AVG and Gear shows almost same(~747)/same(gear=1) value regardless of gear.
If that is only the MUT logging problem, I guess there is no reason why I struggle with 96530706 rom.
I don't use ECU boost control. I just wanted to make a suggestion to try and get you going in the right direction.
According to Tephra the logging "problem" should work as seen in previous posts here.
According to Tephra the logging "problem" should work as seen in previous posts here.
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My MUT table is same as his, and I do not think it is a logging problem, because I get correct values with 96530706 rom.
I didn't try zeroing out the WGDC of 0 and 6 gear, so I might try that see if it works regardless of the logging problem.
Thanks for your help.
MUT table values are incorrect on the table Chmodlf posted
00 = 859C
01 = 859D
02 = 893A
03 = 893B
04 = 89BA
05 = 89BB
These settings should cure your errors in logging. (Remember to put =0x when entering new values into the MUT)
00 = 859C
01 = 859D
02 = 893A
03 = 893B
04 = 89BA
05 = 89BB
These settings should cure your errors in logging. (Remember to put =0x when entering new values into the MUT)
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Are those MUT values are for 2byte load / airflow / rpm stuffs?
BTW Some of my MUT requests are logging different compensated loads (temp, and baro and temp) which depending on which rom are used rather than the uncompensated or raw load.
Last edited by chmodlf; Apr 5, 2010 at 05:49 AM.
Here is the XML for Evoscan for the rpm speed ratio
<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="RPM/Speed" LogReference="RPM/Speed" RequestID="CALC" Eval="[RPM]/[Speed]" Unit="unit" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="RPM/Speed" Priority="2" Visible="False" />
This is the XML I am using for evoscan for gear. It works pretty well.
DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="Gear" LogReference="Gear" RequestID="CALC" Eval="([Speed]*225)/[RPM]" Unit="unit" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="2" Visible="False" />
NOTE you can change the priority to 1 to have the logging occur every sample vs every other like I have set.
Not having these is more of an inconvenience. It is troublesome that tephra could not solve the problem. I started down the road of dissasembly but I have had a crazy schedule this last month. Couple that with a head gasket install and well, you get it. It does make me wonder if there are bigger errors in that code lurking somewhere. I have to say though the 94170715 is working great other than these two small issues.
Last edited by chmodlf; Apr 5, 2010 at 05:51 AM.
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As you can tell by my above posts with Tephra, we were unable to fix this problem. The rpm-speed ratio can be solved by dividing RPM by speed. That is what this MUT request was doing anyway in the code. You could even set it up in excel.
Here is the XML for Evoscan for the rpm speed ratio
<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="RPM/Speed" LogReference="RPM/Speed" RequestID="CALC" Eval="[RPM]/[Speed]" Unit="unit" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="RPM/Speed" Priority="2" Visible="False" />
This is the XML I am using for evoscan for gear. It works pretty well.
DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="Gear" LogReference="Gear" RequestID="CALC" Eval="([Speed]*225)/[RPM]" Unit="unit" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="2" Visible="False" />
NOTE you can change the priority to 1 to have the logging occur every sample vs every other like I have set.
Not having these is more of an inconvienience. It is troublesome that tephra could not solve the problem. I started down the road of dissasembly but I have had a crazy schedule this last month. Couple that with a head gasket install and well, you get it. It does make me wonder if there are bigger errors in that code lurking somewhere. I have to say though the 94170715 is working great other than these two small issues.
Here is the XML for Evoscan for the rpm speed ratio
<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="RPM/Speed" LogReference="RPM/Speed" RequestID="CALC" Eval="[RPM]/[Speed]" Unit="unit" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="RPM/Speed" Priority="2" Visible="False" />
This is the XML I am using for evoscan for gear. It works pretty well.
DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="Gear" LogReference="Gear" RequestID="CALC" Eval="([Speed]*225)/[RPM]" Unit="unit" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="2" Visible="False" />
NOTE you can change the priority to 1 to have the logging occur every sample vs every other like I have set.
Not having these is more of an inconvienience. It is troublesome that tephra could not solve the problem. I started down the road of dissasembly but I have had a crazy schedule this last month. Couple that with a head gasket install and well, you get it. It does make me wonder if there are bigger errors in that code lurking somewhere. I have to say though the 94170715 is working great other than these two small issues.

The actual logging of RPM_SPEED_RATIO_AVG is not a big deal, since we can get pretty close value from the calculation (tire size + gear ratio), but I just want to use the gear dependent boost control function which makes Tephra V7 even more desirable.
Anyhow, I wish I could do disassembly myself, but I gave it up after I couldn't get the tool which ECU gurus here use most.
Well, I guess it is time to try to find it again.

I hope you can get a fix once you have time.
Thank you for your efforts!







