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doesn't effect the power output reading if you're not using weather station settings.
FWIW, I called FP with the same question last week about an external wastegate for the Black and they said they wouldn't recommend it because you really don't need it until 50 PSI+ boost. They don't recommend 50 PSI boost either because it was GREATLY reduce it's life.
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the 50psi boost thing i can see, it will become a blow torch at that boost level.
heres my latest work . 31-32psi, forgot to check gauge, but turned the controller 3 full turns back when it was set to 33 so im guessing 31psi atleast.
af still needs work uptop, but i can get that done easy now, and will richen a bit where it hit over 12. vdr is not consistent, if u see it dip UP at the end u need to turn the RPM DOWN until it drops off, otherwise its not accurate.
passenger weight is prob more then 158, i dont know how much 35 qts of amsoil weights tho, and no idea why i didnt remove them from the car yet and continue doing this stuff.

so more displacement, bigger turbo, bigger cams, built head, map rev3 intake manifold, only yielding what my old setup did with close to the same boost? lol..... i imagine once i lean it out more uptop the power will awaken, but im glad the car has no knock at all.
af still needs work uptop, but i can get that done easy now, and will richen a bit where it hit over 12. vdr is not consistent, if u see it dip UP at the end u need to turn the RPM DOWN until it drops off, otherwise its not accurate.
passenger weight is prob more then 158, i dont know how much 35 qts of amsoil weights tho, and no idea why i didnt remove them from the car yet and continue doing this stuff.

so more displacement, bigger turbo, bigger cams, built head, map rev3 intake manifold, only yielding what my old setup did with close to the same boost? lol..... i imagine once i lean it out more uptop the power will awaken, but im glad the car has no knock at all.
leaned out spoolup area, night and day.. have a look


thats about 12.2 a/f at spool,. going to tweak it to 12.5, and still cleaning up a/f got rid of those 12's.


thats about 12.2 a/f at spool,. going to tweak it to 12.5, and still cleaning up a/f got rid of those 12's.
Last edited by tscompusa2; Mar 11, 2010 at 03:54 PM.
I bet on E85 you can get away with it even leaner at spool. Also, you are still very rich from 3k up to about 4k. You are also a little rich from 6500 to redline.
Still lots of room for improvement for AFR.
Then you can jump to the timing and extract some more power.
Still lots of room for improvement for AFR.
Then you can jump to the timing and extract some more power.
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really? thats weird. Robert uses one on his personal white evo with a fp black. I dont see how an external wg would effect the lifespan of a turbo. all it would do, is allow you to have much more control over your boost. if anything an external wg will dump the hot gases faster either dumped or recirculated.
the 50psi boost thing i can see, it will become a blow torch at that boost level.
the 50psi boost thing i can see, it will become a blow torch at that boost level.
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Highly doubtful. I bet its maxed out. There must be a factor that you can put in there or something. There no way that the turbo is that stable for for that long out to 4 decimal places. Just doesn't make sense.
yea same here.. hes logging 2byte so he doesnt have to do the conversion.. i wonder what will happen if you turn up the boost a tad bit to see if any changes occur...
its for sure clipped off. i need to rescale my maps if i want more resolution, but i can work around it. this is just temp anyways, im going to do SD soon. stock maf sucks for this kind of airflow.
External WG allows more preload, which keeps it closed even with the high backpressure that would pop the internal one open.
Higher sustained boost which in turn spins the turbo at higher RPM. It will overspeed it and eventually destroy the bearing system.
copy/pasted from his response.
my boost control is fine now though, it must have been some issue the hallman had with turned all the way down.
Its wet outside today, and im not trying to die.... even with awd, so im not doing any pulls today :/


