they are different, big time .. but he sees my old map and is comparing. i plan on running maybe 30psi with a self tune? until i get it done on the dyno that can tune for like 38psi

add: im most likely gonna have to remove more fuel then i got in there now as well. the 2150 injectors scaled really weird, so my maps going to be full of 11's probably.

 

i have a rather noob question. how do you determine peak torque on your timing map? do you go by where you first hit max load and adjust in that rpm range on the map?

 

ok i guess the reason for my comment was that you leaned out your entire trace area almost a full point. And the question was why so rich not lean.... doesn't really matter. It was just interesting

 

Looking at what you posted here.....^

I thought you were trying to tune to have a pull tuned to rune 11afr flat. This is quite rich. You should consider tuning for mid 11s after peak load and continue this out to redline.

If you are referring to the table....don't get hung up on what the numbers are....they will never match exactly what your WB shows in a log.

 

OH...... i was just hoping that my adjustments made 11 atleast, because remember last time it was 10 flat pig rich. I plan on ultimately tuning for 12.5 on spoolup and 11.8 to the top.

can you answer my peak tq question.

 

yes!!!! no more knock at low rpm pull anymore! adjusting the low/mid/high knock multipliers cured it!!! thanks to JID.

AFR is still pig rich stuck at 10 flat. i knew it was gonna take more then this. stupid afr.

 

im slowly but surely getting the afr in check. this is after my 7th pull.
curve seems to need adjusted on map. car already feels like night and day.

 

Drop those pulls into the EvoM Excel dyno so you can see your HP and TQ changes from pull to pull.

 

i have my boost controller turned all the way off, so running off the wg. i asked FP for a 18psi wg, and im seeing upwards of 25psi and then it falls off a bit. so is it possible the fp black needs an external gate? it seems like its not doing its job, im getting a spike then it tapers off.

comparison is after 7th pull on editing tune, the first one is 3rd pull on tuning process.

 

Power is coming along nicely. You will see the taper if you are not running your boos controller. If it is till hooked up but not turned on, you could get some goofy characteristics.

You might want to set your boost now and save yourself a complete re-tune later. I say this because your AFR will be affected by what boost you run. There is no point in tuning for wastegate only boost if you have intentions of running more boost. Save yourself a lot of time and gas and turn up the boost slowly now that you have tuned so much.

I usually recommend starting with boost and AFR together and then move on to the timing after you get boost and AFR dialed in.

I realize you are in the learning stages, and you are doing a great job by the way, but save yourself the headache of doing this all over again because you want more boost.

 

yes im going to turn it up tomorrow and proceed. ill set it to 32psi and leave it there until i get a dyno tune. i cant wait until tomorrow. I did some more minor adjustments at the higher rpm/load areas where it was richening up. i think its going to crack 500 evom at 32psi.

any recommendations for me for the cruise area around the 100-140 load high rpm area? or is that good? the car feels pretty responsive just cruising as is, no jerks inbetween shifting and it feels like it wants to jump ahead instead of slouch back during shifts.

Thanks

 

You can set up "Open Loop" cruise if you want. It will give you much better fuel mileage.

32psi on pump is pretty high. I can't say I've seen that in my neck of the woods. Take it slow when you start increasing it. I would hate for you to do all this hard work and pop the motor.

Hit me up on google chat same SN as here....I will talk you through the steps to do open loop cruise.

 

im on aim also. remember i have e85

 

Tom quick note... your weather temperature settings are different by more then 10* in your Evom dyno sheet. I dont know if you missed that or if the pulls were done on different days at different times or something like that....

-Ethan

 

FWIW, I called FP with the same question last week about an external wastegate for the Black and they said they wouldn't recommend it because you really don't need it until 50 PSI+ boost. They don't recommend 50 PSI boost either because it was GREATLY reduce it's life.


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