Is this the build that bank-rupted Greece? Thats a lotta HP!

 

Spyro,

When did Kakarakis ran 162 mph? The fastest I have seen is the 9.255@256.77km which is 159.5 mph...

162 mph is 260.6 km... Only EVOs have broken the 260 km mark for trap speed in Greece if I recall correctly... I ll check the drivers' statistics in the Greek sites from the official track results just in case...

Good luck to your goals! You must have picked up a LOT OF POWER to try to trap an extra 13-16mph...

 

Very sorry it was late last night and i was tired so perhaps i did not answer as carefully as i normally would. So please accept my apologies.

Ok i would like to help. Please post dyno chart for the car and also give the transmission ratios, final drive ratio and tyre diameter. Then i will take some time out of my day to review it. You could do the same for the evo that had low ET and MPH too if you like. Looking forward to working with you on this.

 

Why u need transmission ratios, final drive ratio and tyre diameter etc.
U just need the weight of the car and the Mph.
The proof of the full interior and heavy weight car is at the photos below.
But we are off topic now.
This is subaru and its not propriate to publish it to this forum as its another platform, we have many cars to show that are not mitsubishi but i never publish them. Please try to stay on topic.
Its my last post for this. I will post again just 1 more time after 20 days to prove my thoughts. We will test a mitsubishi evo soon for this reason also.
Also we have send similar setups worldwide for this reason. Joe also is one of them too. Dubai and Russia customers already are about to finish their methanol setups.




























Spyros

 

See Spyros, this is the problem. Many of us are just asking you for relevant details but each time you shut the door and refuse to talk.

I think we both know why i asked for the ratios and that very same reason is why you will not give out that data

As pointed out by plenty of other tuners who hold records for EVO's, your ET and trap speeds are nowhere near a match for your claimed BHP numbers. I ran 3x ET/mph estimatation programs earlier from a quick search on google with your car weight and claimed power. All 3 said low 8's and high 160's for that car but the time and trap you post they are saying around 800bhp. This is why i offered assistance because clearly you need to either fire your chassis setup guy or fire your driver and spend less time chasing bhp figures as you cannot put half of what you claim to the ground. Even allowing for a bad setup or bad driver your trap should be much higher than it is with that power.

Wasn't me that went off topic and started posting subaru videos! I thought this was an EVO forum too but i guess there are different rules for different people here. The topic is "highest hp 4g63 engine" that is what some of us are trying to discuss with you.

You do some very nice parts and clearly are not an idiot but as said earlier, your numbers seem a little skewed at times to say the very least! I'll be the first to congratulate you when you break records, it takes a clever man to move things forward. Good luck for the future and lets hope your next post has some real honest data with results to back it up.

 

I think that all the numbers that spyros claims are estimated @ flywheel.......maybe a bit overstimated

 

Offcourse its flywheel, Its 20-22-25% lower to WHP. This subaru had 162mph with ~960-1000whp last year.
Nothing is overstimated this turbo of the sub flows +155lbs/min, pt67 billet finished at 880-900hp engine horsepower to our dyno. I have list of any turbo on the market till 2000hp that the flow rated lbs/min are close to our engine horsepower.


Spyros

 

At York Raceway on Sunday 27th Aug 06 A new European record for 4WD cars was set. 9.196 at 158.55 mph Every run on the day was in the 9 second bracket.

Its old, but looks like a street car. Et is low but mph is not over 160

When your sub went 8.87 did it have full interior?

 

The subaru that we did 8.87 last year was another car, Was not full interior its not this class we are talking about, but was ~2280lbs weight as i remember with driver and close to 850whp methanol setup with 30psi pass as hard remember.

 

Isn't 20-25% drivetrain losses a little too much for a hub dyno? The power loss inside gearbox, differentials, joints and bearings are much less than expected, most of the power losses are between tires and aspahlt (or rollers), trust me

 

For someone who doesn't speak English very well, you certainly have impeccable timing when it comes to leaving details out...or finding excuses not to provide them.

 

20% of 1336 hp is 267hp.

So your driveline and axles and joints etc are absorbing "267hp" worth of heat?
How has it not melted into a ball?

We all know that 20% is massively inflated. This has been talked about constantly.
Perhaps posting WHEEL HORSE POWER might make things a little easier to see and more transparent, unless you actually have these engines on an Engine dyno.

Cheers, Mike

 

Spyros,
If you publish what an FP black (or any turbo that is popular among the evo setups) can be maxed out on ur dyno using a 2.0l setup on 93 or E85, it will give everyone a reffrence point to what ur dyno produces.
.02cents!

regardless of numbers and claims, I am interested in seeing the other cars u have built as well

 

There was a stock turbo dyno somewhere, looked to be close to dj dyno numbers

 

all i know is i expect to see a 1500+hp evo go into the 7s. the subie. nice car. but the HP does not match its MPH or ET. i think big valley or blue valley whatever there called was into the 8s with half that super mega watt dyno number.