Highest HP 4g63 engine (from 2007)
So he's pulling the lever down to upshift?
The problem is the subie's AUTO's suck and very few people have got the gear box working like the glide/t400/480le etc.


Well, it is debatable. For a drag racing setup i would prefer an auto since in my opinion has many advantages:
- no need to change very expensive clutches
- very consistent shifting and launches
- on a manual you need to figure out your launch rpm, need to practice how to slip the very expensive clutch, you are risking miss shifting
- you would have to buy a very expensive straight cut gearbox for the ultimate setup
From a cost point of view you are looking at $15K easy for a dogbox and carbon clutch plus, axles, etc etc...
An automatic could be as much as half the price, plus the service intervals are much longer...
- no need to change very expensive clutches
- very consistent shifting and launches
- on a manual you need to figure out your launch rpm, need to practice how to slip the very expensive clutch, you are risking miss shifting
- you would have to buy a very expensive straight cut gearbox for the ultimate setup
From a cost point of view you are looking at $15K easy for a dogbox and carbon clutch plus, axles, etc etc...
An automatic could be as much as half the price, plus the service intervals are much longer...
The dog box setup in the 8sec P&L STI that I tune cost us about 8-9k
The Auto setup in the other 8sec P&L STI that I tune cost us blood sweat and tears to get it to leave and stay together. The service intervals are way more in depth and the time consuming (valve body, filters, clutches, trans brake) It does however make for super consistent times and much easier on the driveline.
If those dudes are saying the car is not an Auto, they are straight up full of ****. The car hops forward and reverse when put in gears, plus it leaves just like our AUTO GC. Next they will say it has no spray either


Jr
A well setup auto can be much better then a seqential dog box.
The problem is the subie's AUTO's suck and very few people have got the gear box working like the glide/t400/480le etc.


Not really, a well built auto trans for a SUBARU(key word) will cost you more then a dog box, and by the time you are done buying a proper converter.. you could have bought a triple disk.
The dog box setup in the 8sec P&L STI that I tune cost us about 8-9k
The Auto setup in the other 8sec P&L STI that I tune cost us blood sweat and tears to get it to leave and stay together. The service intervals are way more in depth and the time consuming (valve body, filters, clutches, trans brake) It does however make for super consistent times and much easier on the driveline.
Yep
If those dudes are saying the car is not an Auto, they are straight up full of ****. The car hops forward and reverse when put in gears, plus it leaves just like our AUTO GC. Next they will say it has no spray either

Jr
The problem is the subie's AUTO's suck and very few people have got the gear box working like the glide/t400/480le etc.


Not really, a well built auto trans for a SUBARU(key word) will cost you more then a dog box, and by the time you are done buying a proper converter.. you could have bought a triple disk.
The dog box setup in the 8sec P&L STI that I tune cost us about 8-9k
The Auto setup in the other 8sec P&L STI that I tune cost us blood sweat and tears to get it to leave and stay together. The service intervals are way more in depth and the time consuming (valve body, filters, clutches, trans brake) It does however make for super consistent times and much easier on the driveline.
Yep
If those dudes are saying the car is not an Auto, they are straight up full of ****. The car hops forward and reverse when put in gears, plus it leaves just like our AUTO GC. Next they will say it has no spray either


Jr
. Can you imagine buying a bus that doesn't shift smoothly
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