I love how you say "Full interior", but then proceed to list that most of it is gone. LOL

 

LOL, that post you got the pic from was edited 10 mins after your post.

 

External water pump actually weighs more so that was good weight savings you had by keeping it.. Hardblock also adds more weight along with orings.. LOL

My RS Had steel piping, Stock water pump, All the seats in the car, all the exhaust on the car, radio in the car and speakers, and ran 8's @ 156mph.. So all you are listing running 10's means what exactly?? Your way off pace man, whether you want to hear it or not.. 782whp on a dynojet ran 8's @ 156mph... not correct me if i am wrong but our car couldnt be 1100lbs lighter than yours now could with all our interior in the car and full exhaust???

If we made so if we made 782whp on our dynojet and your 8% lower than our dynojet statements are correct then we ran 8's with 701whp.. Can you provide any explanation to this at all??

Mike

 

I missed quite a bit, haven't checked in since my post on page 10.

TTP, you do realize this dyno sheet you keep trying to post....the only one that is showing up is the one from our shop. Yours has a RED X in both of your postings and everyone who quotes you has a RED X too.

I'm up for racing and the scales, bring that pile of crap to Ohio for the shootout. You can also compare the 100's of similar WHP cars we've built to yours and see they are all quicker and faster with less whp and save yourself an embarassing trip.

 

That will never happen.. But by some crazy act of god he attends the worlds largest DSM / EVO gathering of Racers can i please get in on some action as well with him.. Ill use the slowest Evo I Own.. I Promise..

Mike

 

710whp uncorrected in summer, 763whp weather corrected
You don't use weather correction below 1.00% so no, colder weather will not lower whp below 1.00%.

And ours runs with door beams, power windows, heater core, manual waterpump and all accessories spun by the serpentine belt. Not stripped half by the factory and the other half by the owner.

Our car has 9.7 in it as it stands at current power and weight. Unfortunately our track here locally will not allow it to continue to run to get the E.T. down without 9 sec certification which is why we are building another chassis for it.

The car weighs in at about 3370lbs with 205lbs driver. Yes the 7lb wing is removed. Full interior less the pass seat and rear seat.


Parts that remain are door panels, speaker, radio, full A/C and heat, Psteering, seat belts, catback removed, 8 lb resonated testpipe as well as downpipe. Steel IC pipes and intake.

Sorry, I wasn't paying attention. The red is actually IN the car. I screwed that up.

 

Slorice's example is right in line with spin2gst's and VWjeff's power, ET and MPH on all three cars reflect all three of their HP's to be in line with their track results. Slorice's car he said was dyno'd at 37 and 39 psi which resulted in only a 13 whp difference. If you want to assume those gains will stay the same you can add on another 19 whp for 42 psi.

Perfect example of three cars with read MD numbers who all ran quicker ET's and higher MPH with interiors, exhausts, water pumps, wet blocks and all the other stupid *** lame girly excuses you can dream up and type.

 

Shawn's EVO IX from AWD is as close to true street car as possible. The car traped 144mph with 676whp.

 

Depending on the waterpump. The small radiator, volume of coolant weight reduction, rotating mass from no accessory belt spinning a waterpump all contribute to both weight savings as well as the transmission of power while reducing drag on the engine with additional pulleys.

 

This is the exact attitude that started the E-Town event being held on the same day as your event. The more you alienate Evom members and vendors from attending your event, the more people will support the competing event.

The reason the dynosheets are not showing up is because of your internet browser, not because there is something wrong with the host. Firefox and Chrome show them perfectly.

 

So this would mean that with 621whp on TTP's dyno shauns car would run 9.7@144mph.. I just dont understand how much clearer it can be that TTP's dyno is inflated.. The only 1 person in the entire forum that is missing this is TTP..

Shauns car has every single thing in it for the most part.. full exhaust, full SE se interior, full a/c, power steering, and the list goes on and on.. The car ran 9's on pass #1 and pass#2 and thats all we ever ran it.. Scott do you care to explain how this is possible with 140whp less than your car and HEAVIER than your car that it ran that?? YES HEAVIER THAN YOUR CAR.. its a GSR not RS..

 

You all speak blasphemy!!!

 

I say have a dyno verification shootout for all shops!
It will end all the inflation/deflation!

 

TTP, you are so freaking clueless, it's incredible actually. When I argue I can atleast still read facts, you seem to just skip right over them. Slorice's chart lays out exactly to what his numbers where and shows interpolating them matches them up within 1.6%. Even if I were argueing against him I'd have to use that as enough fact to shut me up. It's a shame to see you can't grasp that.

There's 10 guys in here proving you to be incorrect but you keep battling. You are worse than me on my absolute worst day.

Stop crying because I am 15 years ahead of you on how to build a fast car, hire someone to do it for you. Let me know when you figure out how to remove the water pump from the car so there is nothing to spin with the power steering still on it, I'd love to know so I can take my factory water pump off while I am running the electric pump. Yes, now get up from your desk and go look at the belt routing, you can get back to me with your apology of being ignorant after you do.

Our half radiator empty weighs MORE than the stock radiator, full I'm not sure, the 1/2 radiator is thicker, weighs more and with the initial weight difference when both are full the weight saving is minimal if any. Add to that the electic pump weight, mounting bracket and extra line and fittings that have to be run and the total weight savings from doing an electric water pump are not only zero but make the car heavier. Adding hard block to an engine adds to the weight of the block also.

Maybe get educated before you start spewing garbage about weights and belts turning.

 

9 of them are in cahoots with you and/or dealers of BR parts. How many were instant messaged and told to come into this thread and post comments to support you? The world will never know, but I have a good idea.

The fact remains that slorice is trying to compare a car that was never dynoed to a car that has been dynoed and convince the forum audience that this is a solid comparison.

You can with a bypass and it has been done before. I don't have to get up as we have already made a similar part to this.



Maybe you need to open your eyes to new ideas that and old dog has trouble accepting.