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Old May 6, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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I think the cams are working with the head better than the off the shelf solution. Off the shelf is great for an off the shelf head but since mine is worked it needs something to help it. I think it has moved the power back to the right about 300 rpm.
That sounds about perfect! Heard from Greg today?

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Old May 6, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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Im gonna guess 850-900awhp with 45psi. Not peak boost but what it holds at.
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Old May 6, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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On this exact setup. What cams would you recommend for best spool up even if it is at the cost of power up top?
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Old May 6, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 3gEclipseTurbo
Im gonna guess 850-900awhp with 45psi. Not peak boost but what it holds at.
Ya I hope you are joking! First off I doubt Aaron will push the turbo beyond 40psi. Much less holding 45psi I might be wrong but I think the current Record on the 3586 is low 800s. The only HTA turbo that will hit 900s is the new turbo Robert is coming out with.

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Old May 6, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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Interesting point on the camshafts Aaron. noodling...
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Old May 6, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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I first put 850awhp then changed it to 850-900, ill just stick with 850whp. Thats if its set to all out kill mode at 40-45psi. Im thinking that the 3586 is closer to a 6765 than a 6262 based on hitting almost 680awhp at only 30psi peak and holding 27psi.
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Old May 6, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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My guess is 774 @ 38psi.
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Old May 6, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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E85 power numbers (again no timing changes...yet)

20 psi was 564
22 psi was 596
25.6 psi was 648
27psi was 678.9

This is where the pulls stopped looking like a Honda and started getting some curve to them finally. Even then it is just flattening out for a little bit and still making peak power at 7800. Since the timing was a constant, the car picked up 25whp per psi up to this point. We typically dont feel its pushing the compressor till its around 10whp per pound.

Plot it and report back

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Old May 6, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
My guess is 774 @ 38psi.
wowowowowo the original bet was at 40psi. You knew you would lose to me seeing how well the car is doing, so now you are trying to lower the boost level sneaky person. I'll play your game!

My guess is 775 @ 38psi

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Old May 6, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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To add to the confusion, Johnny made 722 on his 2.3 at 33psi with the same turbo and FP4Rs (he can correct me if I am wrong). It has a JMF I think, 3586 exactly like this...maybe. He might be out in the shop pulling it off now It has meth but it was really more about extending the fuel system and less about the timing as I recall.

Here is his sheet-



I realise a 1G head changes things and the cams arent quite the same.
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Old May 6, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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How far do you plan to push it? How much psi? So that way my guess is for that psi.
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Old May 6, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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FP3 cams
Magnus intake
I was all out of fuel system on a single intank 044 @ 17 volts using a BAP
100% meth with 2 big nozzles to stretch the fuel system as far as possible
I have a homebilt twin intank walbro setup to go with my new DSM FIC2150 injectors, I think I'll be able to top this chart:

Yes, I now own 2 sets if FIC2150 injectors! I really am sick!

And you are right that I am now contemplating options on how to bolt my fp3586 up to the EVO instead of the Talon.

hmmmm a twin scroll experiment maybe?

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Old May 6, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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114/7=16.3whp per psi boost not 25. From 22-27psi the car picked up 82whp which is around 16whp/psi as well.

Originally Posted by JohnBradley
E85 power numbers (again no timing changes...yet)

20 psi was 564
22 psi was 596
25.6 psi was 648
27psi was 678.9

This is where the pulls stopped looking like a Honda and started getting some curve to them finally. Even then it is just flattening out for a little bit and still making peak power at 7800. Since the timing was a constant, the car picked up 25whp per psi up to this point. We typically dont feel its pushing the compressor till its around 10whp per pound.

Plot it and report back
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Old May 6, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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damn that is some sick numbers
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Old May 6, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by @MR EVO@
damn that is some sick numbers
Agreed, most People expect nothing less from someone like Aaron

Mikey
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