If your car was hitting 10.5 AFR's and bottoming out the sensor, you are probably at like 10's or something stupid rich up top.

I think you might need a new tuner personally if he let you leave with AFR's like that. That is factory bad AFR's.

Shoot for 11's at least, I mean my god. On pump gas, you are prolly leaving 20-30whp on the table just from AFR's.

 

^Wideband in the car says 10.4 which is just low enough that the dyno won't read it.

 

That is still rich enough where you are leaving a decent chunk of power on the table. 11.0 is plenty safe for pump.

 

No you make more peak power than your stock turbo but a stock turbo has a much fatter curve which wins. I know this because I messed with that kit way back when they were popular. It's junk whether you agree with it or not. Do what everyone else did and swap the hotside for a t3 with a decent manifold. If that hotside isn't junk then explain why you are hitting 28psi at 4700rpm. That's almost 6262 spool up and half the power.

 

I know a guy that had a 6262 on a 2.0L and he said he wasn't hitting full boost until about 5200rpm, which is 500rpm later. I also did some looking around and a lot of stock block 6262s are full boost by 5500 or later, which is nearly 1000rpm later than my 30R... There are numerous reasons for the later spool on my setup, like my stock UICP or the small IC. I am going to be getting a short route UICP and a much bigger core, which should help with spool since the car will be flowing much better. I never said the hotside was the best, but it is far from junk.

I looked at the last dyno on my stock turbo and I peaked 335wtq and 325whp, but was over 300whp/wtq for about 3000rpm, where as with my 30R, on a lower reading dyno (I made 275whp stock on the other dyno vs this dyno that stock Evos dyno 235ish), I peak 320wtq and 355whp, but make more than 300whp/wtq for almost 3500rpm and make 320whp for about 3000rpm (hell, I'm over 340whp for about 1750rpm). So tell me how my stock turbo that made less peak power and less power through out the rev range will beat my 30R that makes higher peak numbers and more power through out the general power band? Lets not forget that this is a VERY, VERY safe tune, where as my stock turbo was running a much more aggressive tune (30R dipping into 10s afr and stock turbo around 12.0 afr).

Trust me, I drive my car much more than you do ( ) and since the 30R it is considerably faster than where my stock turbo was with a whole lot more top end with a much safer tune. I don't know how anyone could be angry with that...?

 

Your tune is way to rich.. Get that fixed, you will be surprised how much power you pick up

My car runs 11.4- 11.6 on pump gas with a much bigger turbo. And thats not even an agressive tune.... Your nowhere near the limit of the stock block so id be trying to squeeze as much power out of that turbo as possible

 

Get it tuned somewhere else dude. You can make a lot more power from someone else (TSCOMPUSA)

 

Tom is a great guy, but I like having my tuner live 15 mins away. I told him I wanted the car to be uber safe and it is. I picked up a nice chunk of power over my stock turbo and I'm happy. I don't care if I squeeze every ounce of power out of my car, because I am much more happy with a very reliable car.

 

Why are you spinning it off like the sh*tty tune is "super safe" and blah blah blah.... The tune is garbage. If i paid someone to tune a car and it came out with a a/f of 10.5.... Id be pissed and never ever have them touch the car again. Your not running a "safe" tune, your being lied to by someone who took your money.

Who cares if the tuner is 15minutes away if he sucks? I have a walmart right across the street from my house, so i should go there for all my maintence, instead of taking it somewhere that knows what they are doing?

I just done get it, your defending something that is so clearly not right. If your happy wasting gas and have a much slower car then you could have right now, then so be it. Your car is no safer at 10.4 then it would be leaned out some. The only thing that will happen is the car will make more power and run better

 

My tuner is so ****ty he went mid 9s on all season tires in his Evo 2 and 207mph in the standing mile. You are 100% right, I should find someone that knows what they are doing.

 

For the record, I don't know how many times I have said my IC isn't able to keep up, but that is a big reason we aren't running much more lean. The more we lean it out, the more the car doesn't like it and pulls timing. I'm sure the EvoM tuners, that have never tuned a car already know this though...

There are reasons for not pushing the car, one of which is that I just don't want to push it like crazy. This car was down for a year and it is finally running great, I'd like to keep it that way.

 

Wow. You really have no clue.

He sure as hell didnt run 9s on a 30r car with a 10.4 afr....
So what does that have to do with anything?

 

^ You said he sucks as a tuner, I simply showed proof that he knows what he is doing.

You're right, he had a built motor and massive turbo with an aggressive tune since it is solely a track car. So, if I lean the car out to 11.5afrs and make a whopping 25whp more that means the car is amazingly better? I'd rather leave it where it is and continue to get 26mpg highway and have a tune that will never come close to blowing the motor. You are the one that doesn't get it. Unlike you, I don't care if I lose out on 25whp, to make sure the car is overly conservative. If I was on a built motor, I would have no problem running it much more lean, but I'm not. I have other priorities right now. I have a wedding in 2 months, honeymoon, purchasing a house and so on. I want to make sure the car isn't going to blow up, even if that means I lose out on some ponies.

The likelyhood of getting to the track this year for me doesn't look good, so why push the car? Next year E85 and a forward facing manifold is in the works as well as a better daily car. Then, the car will be pushed.

 

Lol @ thinking the car will blow up at 11.4
That where the afr SHOULD BE, thats not lean or "pushing it"

 

The car is choking on it own fuel...