Cleaning the FMIC is a real big help anytime. After a while they always get gunked up.

 

I don't know what the inside of the fmic may look like but the car had catch cans on it 90% of its life. It could have some oil in it but seems like any major improvement in efficiency has more to do with the type of core or design tho..maybe their older cores were not so good?

Idk but that's why I sent the car to people who have their hands on more evos than Florida has sunshine.

 

It is hard to imagine that any decent "functional" intercooler, let alone an AMS unit, would cause a 56deg spike in IAT with a single 7sec burst. I am not doubting the data provided, but the assumption that core design caused such a dramatic rise in temps. Can you show some pics or provide specs for the AMS unit?

 

I tuned a 6262 Evo with an ams cooler. At the track start iat's were 100 and through the traps was 175. Car ran great 1/8 mile but terrible 1/4.... this was at 35psi. I have an ets 5" and I only see 120 on the same day. Intercooler design is everything! ets and Buschur coolers work.....

 

Thank you.....so much easier to deal with the forums when someone else who is known for making power agrees with something I say.

 

Emery may swear by Kelfords.........not sure in what car that would be, if you look at the record setting cars he builds he's not using them. He's using STM650's and I can assure you Kelford isn't making those for him

I've seen a lot of GSC cams make good power.

The 2.3RPM spins higher rpm's because of the entire combination of parts and the build process.

 

What is your point? That core is the core we use in our Street FMIC, great core. not what's on this car though.

 

Now some random responses......

That original AMS FMIC's were too small and have had huge increases in IAT's since they were introduced, end of story.

I did a write up years ago, that can still be found here on the forums about cleaning out your intercoolers. If I remember right it was another time I tried to be helpful and just caught a bunch of **** from the internet experts who couldn't just use gasoline to clean it out and had to debate on the proper chemical composition of what was to be used....

The input on the cams.........boring, ridiculous and border line retarded. I dyno cams in engines/cars on a dyno, on the same day, back to back and collect data. The amount of cam swaps I've done is stupid. I've done 4-5 sets of cams in my car on the SAME DAY on the dyno to collect data. It's not a matter of "wanting" my cam in a car, it's a matter of what works best and if "my" cams didn't then I'd be having a new cam ground. I have cams that we "make" and cams from other companies I use if I want more PEAK power at high RPM than our BF272's, fact of the matter is NO cam I have ever run or tested has provided a better overall curve than our BF272 cam. You can take a look at the times, ET/MPH we've run, our customers have run and the many dyno sheets that we've posted showing the curves, the cams work.

We have the exhaust on this car sorted out and custom built as we were out of our tubing. The car is in the bay now for the new FMIC to be installed. Should hit the dyno soon.

 

David, Do you have a link to the FMIC cleaning thread? I'm curious about it, not that mine needs cleaned, but more of the discussion lol

 

Well question does the ait sensor read the same climb in temp when doing the same pull on the street. Any type of airflow to the filter, oe snorkel heat shield ducting from bumper to filter etc.....if I had to guess the turbo and manifold are creating excessive heat under the hood which can cause underhood temps ie ait temps to climb. Im sure you have an extra oe snorkel lyin around if not, id try that ...good luck.

 

It provides a reference point and also contrasts dyno vs street performance in terms of IAT for a given setup.

 

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...formation.html

 

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...formation.html

 

Yes, that is does. The core you are using is much better than the one in question though.

 

You aren't understanding I don't think. I have hundreds upon hundreds of datalogs from cars with proper IAT's in them. A good FMIC doesn't gain this type of temp on a dyno pull.

A few days before this car was on we had the same combination on the dyno, it was the car I posted about, the EVO9 with 130 miles on it. That car has our Race FMIC on it, same turbo. Starting IAT's 51.8 degrees, ending were 55.4 degrees.