Stepping my IX up for 91/E85, looking for final preparation suggestions - EvolutionM - Mitsubishi Lancer and Lancer Evolution Community



Evo Dyno Tuning and Results Discuss vendor and member dyno tuning techniques, results and graphs.

Stepping my IX up for 91/E85, looking for final preparation suggestions

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old Jun 8, 2017, 10:11 AM   #1
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: California
Posts: 199
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts

Drives: Evo IX

Stepping my IX up for 91/E85, looking for final preparation suggestions

Getting ready for dual map tuning tomorrow. I just got my car back together last night. Started with Vishnu V400 with Injen pipes and filter. It baselined at 305 whp with leaky throttlebody.



Since the baseline, I fixed the throttlebody leak and installed AMS FMIC (doesn't fit well with Injen pipes), HTA71, I ported the exhaust manifold and hotside myself while they were out, MAP O2 with ceramic coating (I matched the divider wall between wastegate and impeller ports with my turbo and rounded the flange where I can), crushed my stock DV, and added a spring to help the WGA stay closed. I did a leak test to 30 psi to 35 psi and tightened all my clamps (noticed that the AMS flanges are much softer and thinner than the Injen pipes because it dimpled where the tightening screws are - DOH!). For the tuning, I changed the oil and spark plugs.

Tomorrow, *local shop* will install 3 Port boost controller, RC 1200cc injectors, and AEM 320 lph fuel pump before tuning. Is there anything else I should do before the tuning?

I'll post the outcome once I get it.

Thanks!

Last edited by 2006EvoIXer; Jun 9, 2017 at 10:22 PM. Reason: Just saw rules. Updated. Sorry about that.
Online
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 8, 2017, 10:39 AM   #2
Evolved Member
iTrader: (36)
 
e_kobz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 2,756
Thanked 68 Times in 67 Posts

Drives: 2006 Evo IX SE & 2008 Evo X GSR

What exhaust and intake are on the car? I forget what is included in the vishnu package as it hasn't been around in forever. Might be worth it to get a test pipe if you don't have one. Other than that setup should be fun. on E85 with the 71hta I made 450/400 at 30psi on my Evo IX. Car sure does rip. That was on the stock block and stock cams.
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to e_kobz For This Useful Post:
2006EvoIXer (Jun 8, 2017)
Old Jun 8, 2017, 10:46 AM   #3
EvoM Super Moderator
iTrader: (3)
 
MinusPrevious's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: So.Cal
Posts: 3,423
Thanked 223 Times in 219 Posts

Drives: 2006 ランエボ RS

One of our local SoCalEvo's

Looks like youve got a lot of the bases covered. Didnt see what filter intake you have? Got to run the AEM or equivalent open intake to maximize the tune
Online
 
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MinusPrevious For This Useful Post:
2006EvoIXer (Jun 8, 2017)
Old Jun 8, 2017, 11:02 AM   #4
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: California
Posts: 199
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts

Drives: Evo IX

Sorry guys, exhaust is Perrin. Has HFC and 3" DP (not sure if that's made by Perrin, but I doubt it). Intake is what I got from Injen SP1898 package.

Online
 
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to 2006EvoIXer For This Useful Post:
MinusPrevious (Jun 8, 2017)
Old Jun 8, 2017, 11:06 AM   #5
Evolved Member
iTrader: (22)
 
lancerrally45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: MI
Posts: 1,028
Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts

Drives: in the woods

Another 71hta Cant wait to see the results. Initially your list looks great.
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to lancerrally45 For This Useful Post:
2006EvoIXer (Jun 8, 2017)
Old Jun 8, 2017, 11:08 AM   #6
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: California
Posts: 199
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts

Drives: Evo IX

I plan to always have a cat in the car. Don't need arterficial numbers. Too bad I won't know what my power is without the boost leak as baseline. When Shiv tuned it on TT dyno many years ago, I had him detune it from 315 to 305 whp for safety.
Online
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 8, 2017, 11:14 AM   #7
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: California
Posts: 199
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts

Drives: Evo IX

What's funny is I was supposed to have this tuned last week. I was assembling my exhaust and noticed mismatches on everything. I spent so much time getting the ports smooth and ended up doing a so-so job porting more to match the pieces. LOL.
Life always throws us curveballs!!
Online
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 8, 2017, 01:11 PM   #8
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: California
Posts: 199
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts

Drives: Evo IX

What is the torque limit for a completely stock IX engine (not even with ARP head bolts) on *local shop's* Dynapack? 430 ft-lbs?

From what I can find online, it looks like Dynapacks read 10-15% higher. Then I heard that Dynapack reads slightly lower than a nearby Dynojet. So I'm even more confused.

Last edited by 2006EvoIXer; Jun 9, 2017 at 10:25 PM.
Online
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 8, 2017, 03:04 PM   #9
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
 
4G63_EVO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Montrose CA
Posts: 598
Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts

Drives: 2005 Wicked White SSL EVO 8

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2006EvoIXer View Post
Getting ready for dual map tuning tomorrow. I just got my car back together last night. Started with Vishnu V400 with Injen pipes and filter. It baselined at 305 whp with leaky throttlebody.



Since the baseline, I fixed the throttlebody leak and installed AMS FMIC (doesn't fit well with Injen pipes)

Thanks!
What made mine mate up really well is new couplers from siliconeintakes.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2006EvoIXer View Post
What is the torque limit for a completely stock IX engine (not even with ARP head bolts) on RRE's Dynapack? 430 ft-lbs?

From what I can find online, it looks like Dynapacks read 10-15% higher. Then I heard that RRE Dynapack reads slightly lower than a nearby Dynojet. So I'm even more confused.
Theyre dynapack def read higher when I was tuned by them
Online
 
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to 4G63_EVO For This Useful Post:
2006EvoIXer (Jun 8, 2017)
Old Jun 8, 2017, 03:49 PM   #10
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: California
Posts: 199
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts

Drives: Evo IX

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4G63_EVO View Post
What made mine mate up really well is new couplers from siliconeintakes.com



Theyre dynapack def read higher when I was tuned by them
My problem is the J-pipe to LICP. They touch in coupler. The the other side has big gap to AMS FMIC. I can adjust so spacings are about same but angles won't line up with FMIC. It was so frustrating trying to get the couplers on so I ordered a 6" straight coupler. But the J-pipe still touches inside, so I'll probably make a small gap and deal with small misalignment with FMIC. Maybe my Injen was early version where they fit the E8 better. I'll check them out after tomorrow. Thanks!

I think 430 WTQ should be safe on their dyno then. When I ported my exhaust manifold, I honed #4 cylinder the least in hopes to keep the back pressure higher than the others. Hopefully, it's enough to prevent that cylinder from ingesting more air than the rest. Here's a picture of the other smoothed ports.

Online
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 8, 2017, 04:36 PM   #11
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
 
4G63_EVO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Montrose CA
Posts: 598
Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts

Drives: 2005 Wicked White SSL EVO 8

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2006EvoIXer View Post
My problem is the J-pipe to LICP. They touch in coupler. The the other side has big gap to AMS FMIC. I can adjust so spacings are about same but angles won't line up with FMIC. It was so frustrating trying to get the couplers on so I ordered a 6" straight coupler. But the J-pipe still touches inside, so I'll probably make a small gap and deal with small misalignment with FMIC. Maybe my Injen was early version where they fit the E8 better. I'll check them out after tomorrow. Thanks!

I think 430 WTQ should be safe on their dyno then. When I ported my exhaust manifold, I honed #4 cylinder the least in hopes to keep the back pressure higher than the others. Hopefully, it's enough to prevent that cylinder from ingesting more air than the rest. Here's a picture of the other smoothed ports.

Yeah so what I did is put the coupler on j pipe first, then to the intercooler, the ones from the website I stated are longer than the injen so it helps give a bit more wiggle room to the j pipe
Online
 
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to 4G63_EVO For This Useful Post:
2006EvoIXer (Jun 8, 2017)
Old Jun 8, 2017, 07:30 PM   #12
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: California
Posts: 199
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts

Drives: Evo IX

Update: added WGA spring will be removed before tuning because if it changes tension over time and from heat, I may need a dual map retune (didn't think about the inconsistency tension rates).

Last edited by 2006EvoIXer; Jun 8, 2017 at 08:10 PM.
Online
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 8, 2017, 08:29 PM   #13
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: California
Posts: 199
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts

Drives: Evo IX

Quote:
Originally Posted by e_kobz View Post
What exhaust and intake are on the car? I forget what is included in the vishnu package as it hasn't been around in forever. Might be worth it to get a test pipe if you don't have one. Other than that setup should be fun. on E85 with the 71hta I made 450/400 at 30psi on my Evo IX. Car sure does rip. That was on the stock block and stock cams.
I doubt mine will get to your level especially starting out at only 305 and keeping a cat on. 450/400 is a lot and I don't know if the stock WGA will hold 30 psi with only a 3 port (I didn't add tension by turning the tip down more than stock, which is 2.5 turns from neutral). My engine has 56k miles and has not been touched other than timing belt last month. We will see tomorrow night! Can't wait!
Online
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 8, 2017, 08:33 PM   #14
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: California
Posts: 199
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts

Drives: Evo IX

I'm planning to go to Fontana on 25th to see what times I can get as a granny shifter.
Online
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jun 9, 2017, 05:11 AM   #15
Evolved Member
iTrader: (22)
 
lancerrally45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: MI
Posts: 1,028
Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts

Drives: in the woods

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2006EvoIXer View Post
What is the torque limit for a completely stock IX engine (not even with ARP head bolts)
Via my logs Im showing 450 hp 400tq. Im on a complete stock longblock at 28psi with a gtx3076r.
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to lancerrally45 For This Useful Post:
2006EvoIXer (Jun 9, 2017)
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help!!! Multiple issues Tommyfacekicker Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain 70 May 20, 2017 09:56 PM
Retuned Brett's Evo 8 /w TSComptuned 2.3L PTE 6266 Gen2 ETS T3 Turbo kit FiTronic tscompusa Evo Dyno Tuning and Results 2 May 11, 2017 05:44 PM
[WTB] Xona turbo, Injectors, intercooler, 4g64 block, takata, supertech Olms2468 For Sale/WTB - Engine / Drivetrain / Power 10 Apr 25, 2016 05:25 AM
EVO 9 MAP 2.3L MAP Top Mount 6466 GSC S3 E85 43psi 800whp+ tscompusa Evo Dyno Tuning and Results 85 Aug 20, 2015 03:58 AM
New Mil.Spec 65mm ThrottleBody install has sudden P0506 and Low Idle months later wjamyers Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain 13 Jul 19, 2015 08:48 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:49 PM.


 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: