Wow, I didn't want to go there earlier, but you are completely full of crap. The sad part is that you have a chance to learn something, and you stay full of crap just because you don't feel like listening. You spout the same "GT35R laggs no matter what they say" over and over again without hearing anything people say to you. Have fun with that "questionable" turbine housing you've got there. Sure, you may hit a certain psi by a certain rpm, and that may be sooner than mine, but I make more power at virtually every part of the power band than you. I thought we spent money to make cars fast. I didn't know we spent money for some type of gay bragging right that says we make more psi sooner than the next guy.

In the end, you can brag about your psi, but street, strip, or road course, you'd get owned real quick by the guys mentioned in this thread. Get a clue on tuning and tuners, then come back.

Gofaster's car is tuned by the best in the business (that's right, I'll bow down because the guy is that damn good). Perhaps you should PM gofaster about it. Stop talking about things you don't know about. You are like a walking cliche.

BTW, in reference to the GTI, don't bring rally and race prepped cars into this. If you think they are the same as what we get on the street, you've got another thing comming.

P.S. If you or your wallet ever want to learn things the hard and embarassing way, come to socal for a track day. That will truely be a humbling experiance.

 

This Thread has detoured a bit. I am going to stay out of this one for now. If Anyone has any more questions regarding our kit please post it up in the AMS Forum and I will get to it right away.

Eric

 

The kit rules. My car is tuned like *** and it does lag more than stock, but it still owns the stock turbo. After first gear lag isn't even an issue. Ran a stock turbo evo and it was ownage once we hit third gear . Before that I was dead even too, so I guess that lag doesn't hurt me that much after all It pulls like a raped ape in 1-4 ... haven't tried 5th yet because of boost cut.

 

Fuel cut? You ust be on the stock ecu still. Just wait till that puppy gets tuned. What a difference it'll make. Enjoy being fast.

 

That graph shows the stock turbo vs BR440 RPM, torque, HP overlayed.

the BR440 at every rpm point below 3800rpm is 2 or 3psi less boost than the stock turbo (ie the stock turbo spools a little faster). But the catch here is at any given rpm that the 440 is making 2-3psi less boost, it's STILL MAKING MORE TQ AND HP. It doesn't matter if the larger turbo is making less boost at a certain rpm.

#1 would you rather have 20psi at 3300rpm and 275ft-lb
#2 or rather have 15psi at 3300rpm and 320ft-lb

simple choice

 

Very well said and thanks for the graph, but thats what I said back in post #92.

 

Yeah...I went back and reread....I concur we are both going the same place!

 

Yeah, we'va all been trying to explain this. Thanks for the graph. I hope it helps. You are going to be better at explaining this than I am. I just get frustrated as you can see.

 

Pardon, but the graph in question refers to a Buschur 440 kit, which I believe is a 3071(?) - and if so, it isn't exactly a representation of a GT35 (putting it mildly).

You've been 'explaining this' to the nth degree, but I've asked maybe two pages ago for your GT35 dyno sheet. Surely you have one(?). Even so, again, a dyno cannot measure transient response, which is my only point in this discussion-turned-sour. You insist that it is as good as the factory turbo, but I am having a difficult time believing that, and the primary reason why is as straightforward as considering a larger wheel and housing vs. fixed engine displacement.

Nevertheless, I am going to evaluate your assertion...thoroughly. How? Quite simple. I am going to purchase a GT35 kit. And I do have the supporting mods and tuning capability to use it.

Rest assured I will give a very candid, objective opinion when I do.

 

DAMMIT STFU i said keep it the best kept secret in socal! :P. yeah... i was gonna say... does yer brother have a ****in' vw rally car?

 

Well, make sure to list those supporing mods, the tuning device, and the tuner. I am curious as to what your results will be. I can only assume you will go exede and shiv in the tuning section. Good luck with that. Also, which 35R kit do you plan to run? ATP kits should never be representative of what a regular housing version will do. Keep that in mind.

No, I don't have a dyno plot to post. Sorry about that. Wish I did. I will see about getting you a ems log though. Have it done right and you'll be amazed.

Good luck.

 

Dude, I totally didn't mention names!

 

ATP why not?

 

that housing does not promote quick spool and the true potential of the garrett versions.

 

my post was in no way meant to say anything about the GT35, which I have no data to support or deny.

I simply posted to renforce the point that higher boost level at XXXrpm does not always mean more power. It's entirely possible to make more power even at "pre-spoolup" rpm with a bigger than stock turbo.

we should be concerned about when does the new turbo's torque output excede the stock turbo's torque output, not at what RPM does XYZ turbo put out XYZ psi.