ATP or AMS Turbo?
Originally Posted by Az3ar
Do you realize( you can use the search) that most EVO owners who bought the GT35R AMS or even any other company sold their car because they could not stand the setup, blew their engine up or sold their kits. You need A LOT of supporting mods to make your GT35 spool at 4400 RPM and top all that I guarantee you that this is on 4th gear. on 1st gear you will see lag until 5K RPM. The Gt35R is a great turbo but simply a mismatch size for our EVOs.
I have to comment on this as well. I have had No customer bring it to my attention that they are unhappy with there Turbo Kits. I happily invite any that are. If they have a problem I would love to know about it so we can address it.
earlier in this post Ted B. brought up the point that the 35R's True potential cannot be attained unless you want to dump a good chunk of change into C16. That is true to a point. I have one response to that.
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Eric
earlier in this post Ted B. brought up the point that the 35R's True potential cannot be attained unless you want to dump a good chunk of change into C16. That is true to a point. I have one response to that.
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Eric
Whoa!!! You boys need to settle down a might. I was really finding all this very entertaining and informative. No need to start getting all pissy with one another. Let's get back to business. What I'm hearing is that yes even with the "right setup" or "supporting mods" the GT35R will hit full boost later, but it also has made more power (HP & Torque) by that time. Therefore, the power delivery is smooth and strong all the way to a potential 9000rpm.
On the other hand, the 3071 and/or 3037 develops full boost as much as 1000rpm sooner than the GT35R, but will not make as much HP & Torque and will run out of breath around +/- 8000rpm.
Is this where we are at right now? O.K. lets continue...who's next?
On the other hand, the 3071 and/or 3037 develops full boost as much as 1000rpm sooner than the GT35R, but will not make as much HP & Torque and will run out of breath around +/- 8000rpm.
Is this where we are at right now? O.K. lets continue...who's next?
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Originally Posted by AutoMotoSports
I have to comment on this as well. I have had No customer bring it to my attention that they are unhappy with there Turbo Kits. I happily invite any that are. If they have a problem I would love to know about it so we can address it.
earlier in this post Ted B. brought up the point that the 35R's True potential cannot be attained unless you want to dump a good chunk of change into C16. That is true to a point. I have one response to that.
AMS Water/Alcohol Injection Kit.......99% complete
Eric
earlier in this post Ted B. brought up the point that the 35R's True potential cannot be attained unless you want to dump a good chunk of change into C16. That is true to a point. I have one response to that.
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Eric
3037 is better for street?
Originally Posted by Whoosh
Whoa!!! You boys need to settle down a might. I was really finding all this very entertaining and informative. No need to start getting all pissy with one another. Let's get back to business. What I'm hearing is that yes even with the "right setup" or "supporting mods" the GT35R will hit full boost later, but it also has made more power (HP & Torque) by that time. Therefore, the power delivery is smooth and strong all the way to a potential 9000rpm.
On the other hand, the 3071 and/or 3037 develops full boost as much as 1000rpm sooner than the GT35R, but will not make as much HP & Torque and will run out of breath around +/- 8000rpm.
Is this where we are at right now? O.K. lets continue...who's next?
On the other hand, the 3071 and/or 3037 develops full boost as much as 1000rpm sooner than the GT35R, but will not make as much HP & Torque and will run out of breath around +/- 8000rpm.
Is this where we are at right now? O.K. lets continue...who's next?
you are about right but. I see no reason to go with the GT35R except if engine rebuild (9K redline) was in your budget. The 3037 was proven to make 450WHP which the most that our engines can run safely (then you need stronger internals) why would you get the GT35 then? For a person who is keeping stock internals should stick with Stock turbo, 3071 or 3037.
Originally Posted by Yaroslav
So AMS,you mean that GT35 has no sence on 95 octane?
3037 is better for street?
3037 is better for street?
yes the GT35R is not a street turbo on our 2.0 engines. WIK is a must or race gas. other wise enjoy the lag and no power under 5k...
Originally Posted by Az3ar
lol before you ask about my physics back yourself with dyno sheets and logs.
Originally Posted by Yaroslav
My engine is 2.3 
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you got me there....look I am sure these turbos (GT35R) are great but let me tell you how much fun driving a car that hits 10 PSI @ 1800RPM and 22PSI by 23~2500RPM. Try driving these cars and tell me what you think? Its amazing to have a car like my brother’s GTI (he just refuses to change his K03 turbo) he loves it because he makes around ~240WHP and 250WTRQ. Do you know how much fun it is to drive around twisty roads and racing some cars on the streets? My friends STI and me will booth loose of the start if we are not paying attention. It's not always about numbers and about drag queen and dyno numbers It's about fun and FUN only. For god sake we all can make our EVOS 600WHP but then what? a GTI will come and smoke you’re a$$ between cars because your EVO turbo is not responsive enough. Our stock turbos (16G) are laggy with our 2.0 engine so what do you think is going to happened when you drop a GT35R in there? I keep going on and on and I know this is my opinion only but response and fun are on my list now and everything else comes second.
Originally Posted by Az3ar
yes the GT35R is not a street turbo on our 2.0 engines. WIK is a must or race gas. other wise enjoy the lag and no power under 5k...
See, you keep making these assinine comments. I make more on 91 than you do on race gas and that is well below 5K rpms. Give it up dude. I'm not saying the 35r is the way to go. It's not for everyone. Some of us can make it work quite well. You are so stuck on psi that you forget the purpose, which is to make power. Ever heard of someone bolting up a more efficient turbo and making more power on less boost? Even when the 35r is under it's efficiency range, it is efficient enough to run all sorts of timing, which makes a ton of power and helps spool in a way you have no idea.
Another benefit is that the boost ramp becomes linear enough to not unsettle the car the way you described your own car in an earlier post.
Originally Posted by STFU Tuning
See, you keep making these assinine comments. I make more on 91 than you do on race gas and that is well below 5K rpms. Give it up dude. I'm not saying the 35r is the way to go. It's not for everyone. Some of us can make it work quite well. You are so stuck on psi that you forget the purpose, which is to make power. Ever heard of someone bolting up a more efficient turbo and making more power on less boost? Even when the 35r is under it's efficiency range, it is efficient enough to run all sorts of timing, which makes a ton of power and helps spool in a way you have no idea.
Another benefit is that the boost ramp becomes linear enough to not unsettle the car the way you described your own car in an earlier post.
Another benefit is that the boost ramp becomes linear enough to not unsettle the car the way you described your own car in an earlier post.
This is my opinion and many others agree with me trust me on that one