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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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ATP or AMS Turbo?

Which company has a better reputation for building better turbos? I am refering to the GT35R trubo kit. Correct me if im wrong but arent these two turbos made by Garret? Why is the AMS turbo price more than the ATP, is because AMS has the manifold included? Both have all the things included to make it work. Would you recommend the GT35R or the GT307IR for street racing? I usually dont do launches and mostly race at higher speeds.



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http://www.automotosports.com/evo_gt_kit.asp
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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I would go with RNR or Buschur when getting a turbo kit.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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AMS is a complete kit and you don't have to worry that anything doesn't last

(seen at my friend's car). Even if it's only a gasket. I don't flame anyone. Both are good kits but AMS is
worth a dollar more in my eyes.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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Atp = stealth or the ability to change to different exhaust runners
AMS = sick *** looking engine love there manifolds
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Derek888
Which company has a better reputation for building better turbos? I am refering to the GT35R trubo kit. Correct me if im wrong but arent these two turbos made by Garret? Why is the AMS turbo price more than the ATP, is because AMS has the manifold included? Both have all the things included to make it work. Would you recommend the GT35R or the GT307IR for street racing? I usually dont do launches and mostly race at higher speeds.



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http://www.automotosports.com/evo_gt_kit.asp
both are great kits...i went with ATP because they are about 5 hours away from me
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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We make the best engineered, best designed, most impecibly built, and best performing turbo kit for the Evo hands down. Our kits come 100% pre-assembled making installation quicker than replacing a stock turbo. It may cost more money, but trust me, you will be getting your every pennys worth. Our kits COST US more money in parts and materials to build than other turbos kits retail for, and thats not even including the 20+ hours of professional labor that it takes to build each kit. Hopefully that will give you the idea of how much quality and dedication is put into our product. We spare no expense when it comes to quality.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gsnt
We make the best engineered, best designed, most impecibly built, and best performing turbo kit for the Evo hands down. Our kits come 100% pre-assembled making installation quicker than replacing a stock turbo. It may cost more money, but trust me, you will be getting your every pennys worth. Our kits COST US more money in parts and materials to build than other turbos kits retail for, and thats not even including the 20+ hours of professional labor that it takes to build each kit. Hopefully that will give you the idea of how much quality and dedication is put into our product. We spare no expense when it comes to quality.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gsnt
We make the best engineered, best designed, most impecibly built, and best performing turbo kit for the Evo hands down. Our kits come 100% pre-assembled making installation quicker than replacing a stock turbo. It may cost more money, but trust me, you will be getting your every pennys worth. Our kits COST US more money in parts and materials to build than other turbos kits retail for, and thats not even including the 20+ hours of professional labor that it takes to build each kit. Hopefully that will give you the idea of how much quality and dedication is put into our product. We spare no expense when it comes to quality.
But are they both made by Garret turbo including RNR?

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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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If those are your two choices, go AMS. This would be a no brainer for me. Their turbo kit is a far superior solution in my opinion. I have seen it up close and am very impressed. If you are open to any other kits, I highly reccomend RnR. Their kit is by far my favorite and for many reasons. If you would like to know more, feel free to email me. I don't want to hijack your thread.

Either way, good luck.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:47 PM
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AMS. Proven already.

Numerous Evo's are running 10's with it.
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by STFU Tuning
If those are your two choices, go AMS. This would be a no brainer for me. Their turbo kit is a far superior solution in my opinion. I have seen it up close and am very impressed. If you are open to any other kits, I highly reccomend RnR. Their kit is by far my favorite and for many reasons. If you would like to know more, feel free to email me. I don't want to hijack your thread.

Either way, good luck.
I dont think you would be hijacking this thread at all since we are all talking about turbos. Im sure there are others who would like to know more about it. I might be thinking of RNR also because of their price and reputation. Why would you pick RNR among the other two? Which turbo would you recommend for street racing(rolling starts) and is it worth the extra $600 for the equal length manifold? I think the GT35R may be a better choice if your engine internals(pistons etc...) has been modded as well? The 50trim version is the same as the 3071R like the one you see on ATP and AMS turbo? PM me if you dont feel like posting on here and I wouldnt mind if you posted here Sorry for asking so many questions.

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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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Here's the skinny...

Both sellers' (AMS and ATP) kits use the same turbo, but there is a difference. The AMS kit uses the Garrett housing, which necessitates a special exhaust manifold. The ATP kit uses their own proprietary housing, which fits the factory hardware. Real world dyno tests indicate the ATP housing provides this convenience at the cost of a bit of power potential as compared to the Garrett housing. So, either way represents some sort of compromise (price or power potential), and therefore it comes down to a personal decision.

A 3071 is the turbo that should have come stock on the EVO. It spools up nicely and doesn't run out of puff like the 16G.

The 3037 will generate more power, but takes a little longer to spool, and requires more supporting hardware.

The GT35 takes even longer to spool, which gives a narrow powerband, and requires even deeper pockets for more supporting hardware (can you keep it together approaching 600hp?).

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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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You meant exhaust manifold, right?
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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Oops, corrected.
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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Those that are concerned about spool time on a GT35R AMS Turbo Kit Need to drive one to realize it. the 35R has such a linear curve to it that you feel boost coming on very early. By 4k you have allready hit 20lbs of boost. hell on just 1 bar of boost we hit 400 whp on the 35R kit. Narrow powerband to be doesnt seem accurate because that turbo will pull to 9K with the right headwork. I have this exact turbo on my personal car and Its without a doubt IMHO the BEST all around turbo. If a customer never plans on running race gas then I steer them towards the GT3071R Kit. The 35R Makes great power on low boost but she was made for big boost.

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