DUDE stop trying lol evos are fast as hell, nobody's arguing that...but as Ted B said, what matters is at what speed do you have the power? Aerodynamics play a huge role in this, and so does engine configuration, powertrain configuration (FF, FR, AWD), etc. I used to have a '98 M Roadster, and it pulled really hard up top because it had an inline six 3.2 liter, rear wheel drive configuration. Not to mention it was real low to the ground and weighed just over 3000 pounds...weight matters less and less the faster you go as well..just trying to let you know its not all HP/TQ numbers, there are other limiting factors.

 

I think the biggest limiting factor around here seems to be the lack of grey matter in some of the contributors The boxiness and lack of aerodynamics of the EVO is nothing compared to the density of the brains of some people

This reminds me of the MIata forums Just go in there and stir up some stuff by suggesting that an EVO or a Porsche or even a Ferrari can beat a Miata, and next thing you know there will be dozens of posters vehemently asserting that their Miata with cold air intake and exhaust will beat any car in the twisties or in the race track

Oh yeah, sure my MR can beat a Lambo in the salt flats if I add a Dynoflash and MBC..

 

HP, final drive gear ratio, aerodynamics, they all come into play

You guys say and believe what you want, but like I said before REALITY is..........Go for it on the top end with a new M5 and you will get your *** handed to you without a doubt, absolutely, positively without a doubt. Like I mentioned before and many of you know, my car was far from stock and I could not keep up with that thing on the top end and I was SCREAMING from 4th thru 5th gear and he just kept pulling, and pulling, and pulling. But of course let the flames burn through this post because many here just wont give up

On a little side not though, back in the day (I'm a little older and been in this nasty habit a long time ) I had a 1984 Toyota Cressida station wagon that I put a 95 Supra twin turbo motor and tranny in it with the dead straight axle rear end still in it.... Now THAT was a top end ANIMAL, and it had the aerodynamics of a cinder block, but Man I made a ton of money with that thing racing the mile back in the Turbo-Tito days here in New York..........AAAAAAHHHHH those were the good old days I'd love to run into an M5 with that old wife-wagon and see the look on the Dudes face when he sees me side by side with him

 

SSSSSSSSSSSSSure u will............go for it!!

 

Thank You I love this bit of reality

 

-Have any of you actually driven an E39 M5? many of you have given it way too much credit. it is a fast car, but is certaintly not ridiculously fast. i a driven them, and raced against on the highway in my e46 M3. this was 4th gear pull to the to 130+, i had a passenger, the m5 did not. i was bone stock and the M5 was creeping away from me. not long ago i drove a friends '02 M5 before she sold it. again bone stock, 9,000 miles on it. it was quick, but not that impressive. a z06 would hand it it's *** for example. My evo only has a k&n drop-in, DP, hi-flow cat & exhaust, and i'm sure a M5 would pull on it quite hard at the top end, but frankly a modded evo (cams, TBE, tune, etc.) would have a very good shot. the M5 is 394 HP, 4000lbs, .32ish CD, and a pretty large frontal area. It is not he highway-viking that you think it is...

 

When we are talking about cars in the class of the EVO, STi, M3, M5, AMG Benz, Corvettes, Mustang SVOs, etc. We are not talking about slow cars. No of these are slow by any stretch of the imagination. However, there are differences. When I got my first '03 GSR EVO8, I knew the car was fast and all that. However, I soon found out that an M3 could pull away from me on the interstate very easily
Obviously, those cars are way faster that a stock EVO like mine. Now I have the new MR, I woun't hold my breath hoping that I can stay with an M3 or M5. I can possibly take one of those in a drag race, but on the highway it's a different story.

I also had my '03 heavily modified. It had cams, gears, injectors, fuel pump, intake, full exhaust and stand alone EMS. I never tried to run a stock BMW M car wioth that one, I suspect I could have had a much better chance of staying with it. OTOH, if the BMW was modified as well, there is no way that the EVO would stay with it. It's a never ending. They get you stock, you mod and catch up, they mod and they pull away again..... There is just too much difference in the cars to gain parity in a highway chase. Those big engined, high performance cars will eat the EVO or STi alive. There is no replacement for displacement

 

Are you serious? We have members on this board who have hit 199MPH with a GT35R, maybe you should stop trying, that was on a STOCK bottom end too BTW and the rate that it got there would leave an M5 in it's wake. Power at what speed? The more load an engine has, the more power that turbo is going to make. Making power right up to 8000 or HIGHER and having a tall 5th gear allows big topend. Not even gona mention the possabilities of a built 2.0 reving to 9500 and runnign a big turbo.....I love the linline 6, it is my fav motor in fact, but DO NOT DOUBT and Evo making big power up top, they pull, it all depends on the Turbo size and tuning as that is the MAJOR limiting factor it has out of the box.

Trap speeds are VERY telling, a M5 traps at 108 give or take, That's a Vette, people take them all the time up top as well.

 

That reminds me of when I had a 320hp modded Taurus SHO and a good friend had a fairly modded Buick GN - low, low 12sec E.T.

From a stop, he made me look like I was going backward.

From 70-140mph, I could put about **4-5 lengths** into him.

The difference was primarily due to aerodynamics. The faster you go, the bigger the advantage for the more aerodynamic car.

 

i have an m5 and a stage 4 buschur evo minus the cams. my evo is faster when doing highway runs. i have a friend with an m5 that has exhaust, intake, cams, chip, and some other little parts, and he is faster than my evo.

 

Does anyone know what an M5 coefficent drag is?? Compared to an evo? (I might be wrong on the term....) That would tell us what kind of aerodynamic advantage a M5 would have no?

 

Evo is .31, that is not bad really. My TSI AWD was .29. Someone should Hook up a Honda Hybrid car, it is .22, that thing cuts the wind.

 

The Killer Hail Germany !

 

i no the m3 can very easily lay way waste to an evo on the top end, and m5>m3>evo in terms of top end. bimmers are high way monsters, my m3 lays waste to my evo but not for long

 

From here to the corner maybe , but on the highway we all know whos king