New Bolt in turbo... FP White Rabbit.
Originally Posted by tcarretti
Derec,
Hell, I'll give you a ride in mine too! Hehehehehehehe...... cuz I'll have the ALKY!!!
Sorry, I'm getting a little giddy about this now.........
Talk to you later,
Tony
Hell, I'll give you a ride in mine too! Hehehehehehehe...... cuz I'll have the ALKY!!!
Sorry, I'm getting a little giddy about this now.........
Talk to you later,
Tony
If you road race at all this is THE turbo to get. I can't imagine what this turbo would spool at with a stroker kit. Roundpro is putting a 2.3L stroker and i think he may put a rabbit on his too. We'll see.
Originally Posted by Zeus
That depends on your tuner. I'm guessing 380's to 390's on the DynoJet with your mods and a good tune. However, your current tune is going to be WAY off... and you would need injectors. Trust me, I tried it.
For those wondering, our car had a completely BONESTOCK untouched longblock... right down to the factory head bolts. The valve cover has never been off of this engine.
I don't have a stock turbo comparison for you on the same car, but I do have some dyno pulls from the other day on 3 different evo's with stock turbos. Not TME turbos, rather bone stock with the smaller 9.8 housings. These cars all ran pump gas, were all at 20-21 psi, and all had basic supporting mods... full exhaust, air filter kits from various vendors, boost controllers, and all had stock cams as far as I know. We did not prepare these cars, nor did we do any tuning to them. This was a dynoday event here at the shop where we simply tie them down and see what they pull. I figured this would be a reasonable comparison to show spool characteristics.
Dynoday run 1, Vehicle1: Custom Dynoflash, full exhaust, etc. 20-21psi
Dynoday run 3, Vehicle2: Mail-in Dynoflash, full exhaust, etc. 20-21psi
Dynoday run 5, Vehicle3: SAFC, full exhaust, etc. 19-20psi
I hope this helps with your comparisons.
I don't have a stock turbo comparison for you on the same car, but I do have some dyno pulls from the other day on 3 different evo's with stock turbos. Not TME turbos, rather bone stock with the smaller 9.8 housings. These cars all ran pump gas, were all at 20-21 psi, and all had basic supporting mods... full exhaust, air filter kits from various vendors, boost controllers, and all had stock cams as far as I know. We did not prepare these cars, nor did we do any tuning to them. This was a dynoday event here at the shop where we simply tie them down and see what they pull. I figured this would be a reasonable comparison to show spool characteristics.
Dynoday run 1, Vehicle1: Custom Dynoflash, full exhaust, etc. 20-21psi
Dynoday run 3, Vehicle2: Mail-in Dynoflash, full exhaust, etc. 20-21psi
Dynoday run 5, Vehicle3: SAFC, full exhaust, etc. 19-20psi
I hope this helps with your comparisons.
From comparisons done against other AWD Dynojet Dynos out there, I would say that the results are very close to the same. That is why I posted the results of 3 different Evo's with parts from various vendors for comparison to the numbers I attained with the Rabbit, an EMS, and tuning. I believe others are seeing averages of 250-280awhp on AWD Dynojets with stock turbos and mild mods on pump fuel. This is generally what we see here.
Originally Posted by TheGVR4kid
"Death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth."
I can't believe so many got the reference wrong.
I can't believe so many got the reference wrong.
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I think this turbo is good and it will serve the purpose well. I don’t see much lag if any and the top end is much improved. The price is a bit on the high side but hey you got to pay to play. I will wait and see more results as I am thinking about low low end power since that’s what I need for the track... However putting my hands on a stock turbo for $300 is not like paying $1500 for Toby so I will sit back and watch the show.
Originally Posted by EvO6-RS2
Smogrunner, Zeus or Tym....2 questions:
The 2 "White Rabbit" graphs what boost levels? and what Octane gas?
The 2 "White Rabbit" graphs what boost levels? and what Octane gas?
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Is it just me or does it look like the new turbo is making power earlier and is similar spool? I am not one to read dyno charts so if any one can share. Looks like a massive difference in HP/TQ after ~3750RPM and that car has less supporting mods... Impressive...
Here are the results after tuning the combination on our AWD Dynojet chassis dyno. We pulled the car a total of 17 pulls. 1-6 were pump gas pulls on 94 octane Sunoco pump fuel, 7-17 were done on VP Import (because it's all we had in stock today... at these boost levels, C16 would be fine.)
Video of the last and highest pull can be found on our website under videos.
Run 6 was the highest awhp/awtq attained on 94 octane pump gas, run 16 was the highest awhp/awtq attained on racegas with no changes other than tuning. Just because I felt that the filter was becoming a restriction at the higher boost levels, for grins I pulled it and the airbox lid out for one last pull... hence run 17 which is the best of all.
Boost levels on pump gas were 23psi settling to 21psi, and racegas boost levels were 27psi settling at 25 at redline. Robert and I have discussed a couple of tweaks, but I'm happy with the turbo's boost curve. We are using a Hallman MBC which in most applications allows a bit of a boost spike initially, followed by a taper of boost.
Video of the last and highest pull can be found on our website under videos.
Run 6 was the highest awhp/awtq attained on 94 octane pump gas, run 16 was the highest awhp/awtq attained on racegas with no changes other than tuning. Just because I felt that the filter was becoming a restriction at the higher boost levels, for grins I pulled it and the airbox lid out for one last pull... hence run 17 which is the best of all.
Boost levels on pump gas were 23psi settling to 21psi, and racegas boost levels were 27psi settling at 25 at redline. Robert and I have discussed a couple of tweaks, but I'm happy with the turbo's boost curve. We are using a Hallman MBC which in most applications allows a bit of a boost spike initially, followed by a taper of boost.
