New Bolt in turbo... FP White Rabbit.
and you think cams are worth 35whp? what cams? i haven't seen any net that
I am surprised no one has more numbers yet? Are they just not installed?
ok al,
here is more ?s for you or any1 else that can help. is this w/r really any good. i here yes i here no. also for the people that are bone stock and just get this turbo with a few bolt on mods and fuel pump, rail, will it be worth there time, money and what kind of gains. the people that offer this turbo seem to think every evo out there is running cams and stand alone. 90% of evos dont have stand alone. so a stock ecu or ecutek flash/custom tune would be great for the majority of evo owners seeking nice hp with easy mods and pro tunning. o and al. you do sweet work nomater what any1 says.
here is more ?s for you or any1 else that can help. is this w/r really any good. i here yes i here no. also for the people that are bone stock and just get this turbo with a few bolt on mods and fuel pump, rail, will it be worth there time, money and what kind of gains. the people that offer this turbo seem to think every evo out there is running cams and stand alone. 90% of evos dont have stand alone. so a stock ecu or ecutek flash/custom tune would be great for the majority of evo owners seeking nice hp with easy mods and pro tunning. o and al. you do sweet work nomater what any1 says.
Originally Posted by 954DRGSR
Al - Lets suppose this turbo makes only 30 to 40whp more than stock on pump and allows you to hold boost longer than a 10.5 equipped car.
Assuming one had Cams, Cam Gears, Exhaust, Fuel Mgmt etc - would you consider it a worthwhile mod for the money?
Assuming one had Cams, Cam Gears, Exhaust, Fuel Mgmt etc - would you consider it a worthwhile mod for the money?
No doubt based upon the pages and pages of posts on this thread others are excited also.
I cant wait to see some of the reviews and dyno sheets. If it pans out it will be a huge development.
On a seperate issue - claiming 441 whp without cams on a stock fmic and pipes and claiming 30 - 40 whp gains are two seperate matters.
441 is a lot of power on a car with stock cams and stock fmic. If it can make that kind of power I may get one myself to try on my own car.
After this weekend alot of these matters should be resolved. Im pretty sure there are several people getting tuned this weekend with this turbo. This is what ive been waiting for to decide if I want to pursue this turbo or not.
Originally Posted by evodan2004
ok al,
here is more ?s for you or any1 else that can help. is this w/r really any good. i here yes i here no. also for the people that are bone stock and just get this turbo with a few bolt on mods and fuel pump, rail, will it be worth there time, money and what kind of gains. the people that offer this turbo seem to think every evo out there is running cams and stand alone. 90% of evos dont have stand alone. so a stock ecu or ecutek flash/custom tune would be great for the majority of evo owners seeking nice hp with easy mods and pro tunning. o and al. you do sweet work nomater what any1 says.
here is more ?s for you or any1 else that can help. is this w/r really any good. i here yes i here no. also for the people that are bone stock and just get this turbo with a few bolt on mods and fuel pump, rail, will it be worth there time, money and what kind of gains. the people that offer this turbo seem to think every evo out there is running cams and stand alone. 90% of evos dont have stand alone. so a stock ecu or ecutek flash/custom tune would be great for the majority of evo owners seeking nice hp with easy mods and pro tunning. o and al. you do sweet work nomater what any1 says.
I am very excited about the turbo - I am even thinking it may work fantastic on my own car - I may be able to get over 500 whp with it
Forced Performance is a great shop and they do great stuff
However - I look at that 441 whp dyno sheet and I really start to ask myself a lot of questions.
Last edited by DynoFlash; Jul 8, 2005 at 05:28 PM.
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
As for my reflash and internet arguments, I dont see what if anything that has to do about the merrits of an aftermarket turbo. There are lots of idiots out there on the net who say a lot of stuipd things about a lot of subjects. Are you trying to say SHUT UP AL or I am going to slander your product ? I dont get it. Are you saying my reflash product is snake oil?
I am trying to have an inteligent conversation about a product which has great promise and which IMHO remains untested and unverified. I am excited to see the results and even more excited to tune and drive one soon so I can see for myself what all the buzz is about.
I am trying to have an inteligent conversation about a product which has great promise and which IMHO remains untested and unverified. I am excited to see the results and even more excited to tune and drive one soon so I can see for myself what all the buzz is about.
I think you are too accustomed to defending yourself against many of these hair brained kids and keyboard warriors to realize not everything said is an attack or insult. That is beneath me. Hit me up on PM if you want to discuss it further as I find the vendor forums to be worse than the general forums at times.
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ok.. in perspective, this might be a good upgrade for a 2005 evo with a 10.5 hotside.. but it is a great upgrade for those of us with 2003s.. my car doesnt make any power.. stock 05s are more powerful 221whp on 91 with tons of supporting mods.. everything but cams. This turbo would be a big increase for me.. I would love to see 300+... thats all im asking for.
Originally Posted by Zeus
I'd hope you know me better than that... (everyone for that matter). My point was simple. You have had a lot of controversy over how much power your flash has produced... as will/has this turbo. It was a matter of comparing the nae sayers in your experience to the ones now. Everyone can can play internet jockey all they want, but it is going to take tuners getting their hands dirty and really familiarizing themselves with what a new product responds best to.
I think you are too accustomed to defending yourself against many of these hair brained kids and keyboard warriors to realize not everything said is an attack or insult. That is beneath me. Hit me up on PM if you want to discuss it further as I find the vendor forums to be worse than the general forums at times.
I think you are too accustomed to defending yourself against many of these hair brained kids and keyboard warriors to realize not everything said is an attack or insult. That is beneath me. Hit me up on PM if you want to discuss it further as I find the vendor forums to be worse than the general forums at times.
Originally Posted by rook
Thanks for keeping it between the lines guys. Many people on this thread are eager just to see how she does. It is getting harder to wait for other results. Patience Grasshopper.
With alcohol injection it would be a wild ride - (I imagine)
One of my customers will be tuned tomorrow with the Power FC/alky... his was the mustang dyno graph above where he "only" gain 26whp peak and 50 on the top end. He says he found the boost leak, and hopes to ready get it squared away tomorrow. I'm kinda giddy myself waiting to see how it turns out.
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Well I just know one thing. If this turbo deliveres like it says it will, then you know AMS and everyother shop will start discounting their turbos 
hahaha maybe not, but I will jump on the train also. I want the WR Turbo to work out great and then let the MASTER AL tune the car and put a nice Alcohol Injection on the car. By the way I took my car in to the dealer today for 15K service. When I drove the car in the service area all the mechanics stoped what they were doing and they all had their attention to the EVO... Great Feel.... They did not say anything about my mods. Took the car replaced the fluids and on I went. But getting back to the subject, I really hope that Rabit will be good. AL get ready to tune my car if this rabbit really turns out to be great...
hahaha maybe not, but I will jump on the train also. I want the WR Turbo to work out great and then let the MASTER AL tune the car and put a nice Alcohol Injection on the car. By the way I took my car in to the dealer today for 15K service. When I drove the car in the service area all the mechanics stoped what they were doing and they all had their attention to the EVO... Great Feel.... They did not say anything about my mods. Took the car replaced the fluids and on I went. But getting back to the subject, I really hope that Rabit will be good. AL get ready to tune my car if this rabbit really turns out to be great...