New Bolt in turbo... FP White Rabbit.
Thanks. Im still on the stock turbo, and trying to create a "alky map". Planning on running 25-26psi falling to 22 on pump + 100% detatured alky....just trying to get a feel for what others are setting knobs at.
Does this alky plus 93 have as good of knock retention as c16? I run my c16 map with no knock, but im scared to run the same map with the pump+alky setup...probably just going to detune it a bit until i can get to a dyno!
Please pm me with your results of what you think about your alky.
Thanks
Does this alky plus 93 have as good of knock retention as c16? I run my c16 map with no knock, but im scared to run the same map with the pump+alky setup...probably just going to detune it a bit until i can get to a dyno!
Please pm me with your results of what you think about your alky.
Thanks
Originally Posted by tcarretti
Just got back from getting the car road tuned by Mark from TT. Road tuning is definitely a new experience but the car feels great! Dialed in the AFR's then turned on the alcohol kit. Was able to advance timing from 17 all the way to 11 on the top end with NO KNOCK! With the stock BOV (took the Forge unit off because of the flutter at partial throttle....) I was hitting 25 lbs of boost and tapering down to about 21.
If and when a BOV is proven to not affect partial throttle driving, I will slap it in there and be able to hold 25 lbs ALL DAY!!
If and when a BOV is proven to not affect partial throttle driving, I will slap it in there and be able to hold 25 lbs ALL DAY!!
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Here's a little excerpt from an article about mixing fuels that you may want to read. ( http://www.hpt-sport.com/gasclass.htm )
" Both methanol and ethanol have an octane rating of 140 to 160, so they can be used with very high compression ratios. This can result in an increase of up to 15 percent in horsepower. Where does the power increase come from? The two-stroke engine is a heat-type engine which burns fuel to cause expansion of gases, which propels the piston. The more heat produced by combustion fire, the more pressure will be exerted on the piston resulting in a power increase.
The fuel/air ratio for best power is 1:12.5 for petroleum, and 1:5.5 for methanol. One pound of petrol has an energy potential of 19,000 BTU; methanol has 9800 BTU. However, when these are mixed together, more heat energy is produced.
12. 5 / 5. 5 = 2. 2 7 * 9 8 0 0 = 2 2, 2 4 6
{(22,256/19,000)*100}-100=17%
A 17 percent heat energy increase is very desirable, but there is a catch. With this mixture, you will bum 1.8 times as much fuel as with petrol alone. When using exotic fuels, make sure to increase fuel flow accordingly, or engine life will be shortened."
" Both methanol and ethanol have an octane rating of 140 to 160, so they can be used with very high compression ratios. This can result in an increase of up to 15 percent in horsepower. Where does the power increase come from? The two-stroke engine is a heat-type engine which burns fuel to cause expansion of gases, which propels the piston. The more heat produced by combustion fire, the more pressure will be exerted on the piston resulting in a power increase.
The fuel/air ratio for best power is 1:12.5 for petroleum, and 1:5.5 for methanol. One pound of petrol has an energy potential of 19,000 BTU; methanol has 9800 BTU. However, when these are mixed together, more heat energy is produced.
12. 5 / 5. 5 = 2. 2 7 * 9 8 0 0 = 2 2, 2 4 6
{(22,256/19,000)*100}-100=17%
A 17 percent heat energy increase is very desirable, but there is a catch. With this mixture, you will bum 1.8 times as much fuel as with petrol alone. When using exotic fuels, make sure to increase fuel flow accordingly, or engine life will be shortened."
Originally Posted by tcarretti
When it cools off a little later on... (right now it's in the upper nineties here.....) I'll take it out to a stretch of road that I use as a butt dyno to compare to what it felt like before. Will report back later on or tomorrow.
Hope that this helps........
Tony
Hope that this helps........
Tony
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Originally Posted by tcarretti
I've got a second generation SMC kit from Buscher. I have the controls set to start spraying at around 17-18 and max out at 25-26. So far it's working fine. It's been installed on the car for about four months now, but today is the first day of actual action it has ever seen. Running a 50-50 mix of methanol and water.
When it cools off a little later on... (right now it's in the upper nineties here.....) I'll take it out to a stretch of road that I use as a butt dyno to compare to what it felt like before. Will report back later on or tomorrow.
Hope that this helps........
Tony
When it cools off a little later on... (right now it's in the upper nineties here.....) I'll take it out to a stretch of road that I use as a butt dyno to compare to what it felt like before. Will report back later on or tomorrow.
Hope that this helps........
Tony
We went back after lunch looking for a little WR on meth love and you were gone. No problem, we knew you would be back. WRONG!
No WR on Meth love for us!
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Originally Posted by Jon H
Dyno numbers?
Robert,
Sorry, my girlfriend took me out for a belated birthday dinner and by the time we were done I was in NO shape to be driving around with a 400 HP car.........
We will hook up soon. I think that two things need to be done now:
1. We all need to hit up SAR to get some good time slips to show off to friends and family
...and....
2. We need to set up a dyno day at MZM to get some hard numbers for these tunes so I can set my mind to rest.......
Talk to Mohammed, you know him probably best of all us. See what he'll do. I know that he'll be interested now that he owns an MR also.
Tony
Sorry, my girlfriend took me out for a belated birthday dinner and by the time we were done I was in NO shape to be driving around with a 400 HP car.........
We will hook up soon. I think that two things need to be done now:
1. We all need to hit up SAR to get some good time slips to show off to friends and family
...and....
2. We need to set up a dyno day at MZM to get some hard numbers for these tunes so I can set my mind to rest.......
Talk to Mohammed, you know him probably best of all us. See what he'll do. I know that he'll be interested now that he owns an MR also.
Tony
I thought the white rabbit was suppose to hold 25psi all the way to redline? Why is it tapering off to 21psi? someone please let me know. I am trying to get some loot together so I can buy it. i dont want to buy it if it cant hold 25psi and up at redline.
Originally Posted by Zarathustra
I too just got tuned by Mark from TT today on my WR. I was running around a 10 flat AFR before today hah! I'll have to go out with Tony on that nice straight stretch tonight.
Ummm - would you mind sharing those numbers and your mods??? Theres kinda like 1000 people waiting for them!