Originally Posted by Zeus

Works wonders for weight loss... errr, I mean detonation resistance

Originally Posted by atlvalet

If someone's not trying to get me to go with cams, they're trying to get me to install water injection


I have to pay for a reception and closing costs on a new place. That means no cams and no h20 injection for now. 91 is all I'm running...except for that 100 map

Originally Posted by EvoTio

atlvalet, I'm suggesting it because it works! It's the only way to go if you want to get the best out of this crap 91 we have to use. I've used it for over 2 years on my Talon Tsi and now on the Evo. I would definitely do this before the cams. I'll be at Tuning Technoligies on Saturday the 16th getting tuned by Shiv if you want to check out my set up.

Originally Posted by atlvalet

Hey, I believe you...it's just that I can't swing anymore right now. Besides, I'm sure I'll be happy with what I have for a little while.

Originally Posted by DynoFlash

There is no way I can find the time to read through 60 some odd pages of this thread - sorry but I have too many people complaining already that I don't have the time to answer emails.

I am considering this WR turbo for a customer's car here at the shop which is going to be build for street use and I am holding back to make a purcahse for him till I can see some independant reviews.

Yesterday, I recieved a phone call from a well respected fellow tuner who was having trouble to even make more power than a stock turbo with this new WR unit. On pump gas they had reached 320 whp (25 psi) without cams or so they claimed. Clearly, either that particular car has some undiagnosed mechanical issues or tuning problems - or something is amiss here.

I am keeping an open mind here about the exciting prospects for this unit and wanted to get some additional data before I place an order.

I would like to ask if anyone out there has had a chance to obtain independant verfication of the kind of results which are being claimed on this turbo?

Has anyone taken one of these to a dyno yet ?

I am curious and I have not yet seen one show up at my shop.

Lets hear from some others and I am keeping my fingers crossed athat it realy can make 440 whp without cams which I find really amazing.

Originally Posted by DynoFlash

There is no way I can find the time to read through 60 some odd pages of this thread - sorry but I have too many people complaining already that I don't have the time to answer emails.

I am considering this WR turbo for a customer's car here at the shop which is going to be build for street use and I am holding back to make a purcahse for him till I can see some independant reviews.

Yesterday, I recieved a phone call from a well respected fellow tuner who was having trouble to even make more power than a stock turbo with this new WR unit. On pump gas they had reached 320 whp (25 psi) without cams or so they claimed. Clearly, either that particular car has some undiagnosed mechanical issues or tuning problems - or something is amiss here.

I am keeping an open mind here about the exciting prospects for this unit and wanted to get some additional data before I place an order.

I would like to ask if anyone out there has had a chance to obtain independant verfication of the kind of results which are being claimed on this turbo?

Has anyone taken one of these to a dyno yet ?

I am curious and I have not yet seen one show up at my shop.

Lets hear from some others and I am keeping my fingers crossed athat it realy can make 440 whp without cams which I find really amazing.

Originally Posted by atlvalet

Well, you'll have to wait until next weekend in order to see numbers from the SoCal dyno day. I'm having my WR put on next week.

Originally Posted by DynoFlash

There is no way I can find the time to read through 60 some odd pages of this thread - sorry but I have too many people complaining already that I don't have the time to answer emails.

I am considering this WR turbo for a customer's car here at the shop which is going to be build for street use and I am holding back to make a purcahse for him till I can see some independant reviews.

Yesterday, I recieved a phone call from a well respected fellow tuner who was having trouble to even make more power than a stock turbo with this new WR unit. On pump gas they had reached 320 whp (25 psi) without cams or so they claimed. Clearly, either that particular car has some undiagnosed mechanical issues or tuning problems - or something is amiss here.

I am keeping an open mind here about the exciting prospects for this unit and wanted to get some additional data before I place an order.

I would like to ask if anyone out there has had a chance to obtain independant verfication of the kind of results which are being claimed on this turbo?

Has anyone taken one of these to a dyno yet ?

I am curious and I have not yet seen one show up at my shop.

Lets hear from some others and I am keeping my fingers crossed athat it realy can make 440 whp without cams which I find really amazing.

Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO

Im still in awe not 1 of these damn turbos has been on the dyno other than from a person who sells it.

I should be getting mine next week - and i am getting more skeptical of whether I want to put it on or not, just for the sole fact not 1 person here has had their car on the dyno with cams of this thing.

Switzer's dyno on pump w/o cams looked VERY promising, especially since I have cams, fmic, piping, etc. However, I just find it strikingly peculiar that there are STILL no dynos of this damn turbo from independent people. So much talk though! All I see on FP's turbo description is people's testimonies on "how good the turbo feels and how it looks stock, etc.". I dont care for that the slightest bit and I'm sure no one else does either. Show me some god damn numbers already ... SOMEONE! PLEASE!

Originally Posted by tcarretti

Granted, you have to take a few things into account when reading this. The car was originally dynoed May 4th, 2005 at an ambient temperature of approximately 80 degrees.

With only one hour of tuning, a small boost leak that I think I have subsequently found and a whopping 100 degrees ambient temperature, here's what MZM was able to come up with:



There was only a net gain of 26.5 HP and 21.4 lbs TQ, but the boost was spiking at 23 and tapering down to 19.5. After getting the car home, cooling it off and doing some searching, I found the intercooler outlet junction to be a little loose. Tried to tighten it and the clamp stripped. Luckily I had an extra one laying around and replaced it. Now the car doesn't taper below 20.5 - 21 lbs.

If feels great! I went for a drive this morning on some new twisties that I found going out towards Medina Lake and the temperature outside was about 76 degrees. The car feels like a monster and I know that there's some more in there.

Hopefully Mark from TT will be able to massage the rest of it out of there as well as adding the alcohol injection power that's just waiting to be tuned for.

I wanted to give you an apples to apples comparision. Unfortunately, the boost leak does not make this absolutely accurate. At the very least you can see that spool is VERY close to stock but feels faster by the seat of your pants.

Thanks to everyone involved so far from installation to tuning. I have high hopes for this coming Saturday with Mark. Keeping my fingers crossed!

Tony