I think it may not that easy to gain from modding mitsu's original turbo design. you can do blow more air. But that air will be hot !

 

i hope you guys get things sorted out. i made some base line pulls last night in 90 degree heat and made 340hp on the first pull with 91 octane with water/alky. subsequent pulls netted more torque but hp remained about the same. the shop owner told me his mustang dyno reads lower than the dynojet. he thinks its actually 365-370. i was at 25 psi. the works has done a great job helping me with the custom flash. i'm trying for 350 but i'm not too sure it will happen. i am very pleased with the performance improvement.

todd

 

Phillip, he didn't say "too" aggressive, he just said it was "very" aggressive. Aggressive can also be "spot on." I think what Al was saying is that it wasn't like the tune was set conservatively like a basic, everyday high 10 AFR flash, but rather tuned to actually make as much power as possible without being too lean.

On another note, I don't see how 315whp is "crap" or "bad" for those mods. I'd like to see how many other 03/04s there are out there with 315whp on only a TBE/MBC. On an 05, those whp would be about right for those mods on an aggressive tune, though. How much better is the WR supposed to be than the 05 turbo at pump gas boost levels?

 

Todd please post your results on this thread since you are a flash customer with this upgrade.. I want to get all the results of flashed rabbits consolidated

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=148666

 

i understand that this turbo works well with higher octane and more boost but what about people who want to run ~21psi w/o alky?
I guess i should look elsewhere.

j8 - what gives for a comment like that?

 

Why is this? I realize there is a power benefit to the EMS simply based on the fact that you can go speed density and remove the MAF. However, if we are just talking about peak dyno numbers, can there really be a 70+hp discrepancy between the EMS and the ability to maniupluate timing and fuel maps via reflashing?

Perhaps I am wrong. I have been curious for a while now to see what will happen when people try to reflash ECUs with larger turbos. The problem has been, in general, that most people move to an EMS once they've upgraded turbos so there isn't a ton of data out there.

 

Kinda seems like hype , just like in the for sale section , If it sounds too good to be true it probably is.

 

For those who wonder... That same car made 305 whp on TT dyno before the tortoise

 

But aren't there a lot of people on the stock turbo running high 11's? I would hope this turbo would do better than high 11's.....

 

Good question. I have also pondered why this is. Maybe Al can chime in and shed some light

 

Switzer needs to try this experiment on a flash

 

Ive heard of several people flashing an ecu to accomodate a 35r. It is possible but might not be the best path to take.

 

Maybe Tym should start reflashing his own ECUs and results would be different

 

hehe...

 

everyone relax here. the rabbit has made a substantial power increase. to get the most out of it you need to run higher boost levels. this is expected from a small frame turbo like this. easy 11 second car on 91 at 3425 lbs. w/driver is very impressive when in my case it looks like i have only a k/n filter under the hood and its my wifes daily driver.