I would be interested to see the boost curve on the Switzer pulls. It still seems unclear how much boost this turbo will hold up top if you really crank the boost controller on race gas. I don't think any of the people who have tuned a WR have boosted more than 25-26 psi in the mid-range.

 

I have mine set at 21psi and love it! Big improvement.

 

I did a search for " FP and WR ". All the threads have been removed!

I had a few nice vids at MSR...

 

Frankly - I have to interject my own personal opinion here and its NOT very often that I afford myself thatr luxury

I have nothing against the talents of Tym Switzer, I have seen him tuning cars and obviouslyt he is very competant

However, I think it is very poor judgment for Forced Performance to make a statement like that regarding the talents or capabilities of other tuners.

I know of quite a few other tuners who are highly professional and capable - let me list a few of them

David Buschur at Buschur Racing
Dan at Pruven
Martin at AMS
Doug at Top Speed
Dan at Godspeed
Gadiel at Maximum Performance
Joeb at Turbo People
Ben at Ecutek
Tim Marren at Marren Motorsports
Jason Seibles at AEM

If I have left someone out - I appologize - its early in the am.

There are many good tuners out there. Just as there are many good turbo shops.

Its very sad that Forced Performance takes the position that only one tuner is capable of doing a proper tune to extract maximum performance.

All I can say about this claim is that the results at the track do not support this assertion.

Thanks

PS - I guess I must have taken the blue pill from Morhious as I tune my own AEM and my car is the fastest and qucikest Evo 8 without nos.

 

in between shifts feels good at wot,me and the shop guys were taking turnsdoing some quick runs on it even hitting the pedal at say 4th gear@2500rpm you start seeing the needle on the boost gauge sweeping up pretty quick.also this was done with straight **** gas were still gonna do some more tuning with ecutek on it and gonna try to run some racegas with it also.ill post some more results later on when i get back to the shop or probly open up another thread when this gets way off topic like the others

 

Yeah who the farck cares about the peak horespower numbers. They mean nothing, look at the huge increas in total area under the curve. Oh yeah and the lower peak for the HP and TQ numbers.

 

Well, the quickest, but not the fastest anymore. Curt Brown went 141mph this past weekend without nitrous. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=149067

I guess I just don't see how Robert's post was disrespectful. They let Tim test it because they knew that Tim would get the most out of the turbo. Were they supposed to send one out to everyone? His post doesn't appear to be aimed at the tuners in the threads, since they haven't been the "group of people so tickled to slam a specific product." I think it was aimed at the general users of this board.

Anyway, enough of this touchy-feely crap. Get one of these cars off the dyno and take it to the track!

 

i got mine set up to spike to 22 then hold 21ish since it was already hot at the shop and suckin hot air wasnt helping on the tuning part s-afc was being used to dump in more fuel so things wont get too scary boosting high on 91peepee but were gonna be trying the ecutek on it soon so we'll be seeing more results.im still looking around for a water injection for it maybe like aquamist or a mixed ethanol i guess as my last resort.

 

I have gone 143 mph without nos - thanks

 

Gotcha.

 

Its not a big deal to me - I just felt I had to respond to the post as I thought it was out of line.

To me, it says a lot about the marketing plan when they admit that they choose a guy for testing becuase they feel he was able to aciehve the most possible whp on a kamakazi dyno run. That, and the adsense of any realalistic dyno plots or other relevant data say a lot.

BTW - I am assuming that Tym did not also tune John Shephard's DSM also?

 

Everyone that wants to sell their **** or do their best does a kamakazi run! Are you telling me that you don't give it your all when you go to the track?

Last time I was at the track, I ran 32psi (datalogged) out of my 16G and held nearly 26psi to redline. That is a lot for a little 16G. But I'm trying to hit 120mph (so freaking close!), so I experiment and do what I have to.

Has anyone ever bested Dave Buschur's Stage IV results? Hell, there was a guy at New England Dragway last Wednesday who claimed that his Evo ran 11.1 in the 1/4. Turns out that no, it wasn't him driving. It wasn't even his car that ran 11.1. It was Buschur's car, but it had the same parts! Running a big number sells parts, and it is a great way to test a winning combination.

If you show me a company that doesn't do testing like this, I won't buy from them. I want a company that tests their parts like this. FP does it, Buschur does it, Switzer does it, AMS does it, you do it. You call it marketing. I call it testing.

 

white rabbit thread here and drag racing thread over there -------------> Click me

 

FP posted an AB dyno comparison between a TME and a WR at 25 psi on race gas (at about the same time as the Switzer dynos were released) and showed the difference with no other changes. It showed about a ~30 psi gain. How was that not a realistic dyno plot or relevant data???

 

I made this comment in the Vishnu forum regarding the WR and I'll make it here too....

A TME turbo is good for ~30WHP over a stock 03-04 9.8 turbo. The WR should be good for ~45WHP over a stock 9.8 turbo. $1000 for a TME and 30HP or $1500 for a WR and 45HP. The dollar per HP is the same. Plus the fact that the WR will move air outside of the stocker's efficiency range is a plus. I think it's a good turbo, I think it's a great AutoX/Track turbo. I think it's a bad choice for a drag car/highway racer. And I don't think it's a cost effective upgrade for someone with a TME turbo. That is all...

- Steve