cooling is another factor.... the factor that i think is more important... cuz less restrictions will buy you hp... and less restrictions is the easy part... making the damn thing actually work... that's the work right?

 

Well it appears that Dean and I are the only ones so far to have seen the Pruven FMIC, and one of us does not like it very much. I wonder how critical the end tank volume is compared to the other specifications. Since it was on the car when I bought it, I'd sure like to figure out if it performs close enough to the other brands to make it worth keeping...

Maybe I should just take a weekend sometime and swap it with a stock piece for some dyno comparisons.

 

Predat0r,

It's hard to conceive ANY intercooler is capable of adding 27-28 whp just by adding it on (especially with stock turbocharger ). I think you should consider the fact you got tuned which, could have contributed to your whp increase.

You stated your car was running rich, but you don't know @ what AFR you were running. After the tune you're now making a lot more power than before but, again not knowing your AFR.

Maybe, you might want to think about giving credit where credit is due ( meaning AL your tuner).

Before stating with such certainty that an intercooler increased your whp by nearly 30. Consider the fact you had more than just a FMIC installed, AL tuned your ride!

But if you really want to know if it was the FMIC that made the whp and not AL. Dyno your ride again (as is), then replace it with your stock FMIC, and see what kind of loss you get.

I think AL deserves more credit than you give him on your gains.

 

I already did that, apparently you dont understand!

Al tuned my ride and got a best of 312whp and 313trq! That was 2 months ago, after that I only added an AMS Intercooler and Al came again to Puerto Rico and I payed for a retune for my Intercooler because it wasnt running as before, in the base run it went down to 260whp because of the AFR, after AL finished with him again 340whp 320trq was the result. Both numbers were after a Dynoflash, the only difference was the intercooler. Same happened with the other guy, Al tuned him both times. This is the second time we pay for a Dynoflash.

I didnt had anything else installed, its my car and I know what I added, just an intercooler! If you dont want to believe it thats fine! All the people in Puerto Rico believe it and they saw the amazing results with just adding an intercooler, only the 3 EVOs in Puerto Rico with upgraded intercoolers where in the range of 320-340whp, the others with stock intercooler got anywhere from 280-320whp, all with 93 octane pump gas. With C16 some of them went as high as 355whp, even with stock intercooler. It really does a difference and a huge one in our weather. Now, some other people are in the process of buying one!

Al deserves a lot of credit for getting 312whp out of my car the first time, and now 340whp!

 

Great results! I'm curious abt it going down to 260whp after you installed the AMS though. Isn't a more efficient FMIC supposed to flow more air and increase the density of the air charge? That should lean out your mixture and give you more power right? I thought it might have increased your whp by a little right after installation and give you a fair bit more power after tuning. Just curious abt what's the typical Puerto Rican weather like

 

I love my AMS intercooler I made 402hp and 440 ft lb torque with it on the stock 03 turbo. My friend Doug made around the same HP using the Nisei and different exhaust etc.

I just like the quality and fit and finish on the AMS stuff, I considered others but when hearing of end tanks rupturing on some I decided to go AMS.

Who wants to buy something like this and be machining stuff flat just to have it work correctly.


Sean

 

Couple of good intercoolers on the market. AMS's is one of them for sure.

We have three different levels of FMIC's for the EVO. Depending on what you are looking for we can fit what you need.

Before I descibe them, we aren't one of the companies mentioned with end tanks rupturing.

Our standard intercooler doesn't require any cutting of the undertray, direct drop in, uses stock or aftermarket plumbing kits. The core is 24x10.3x3.5", $650.

Our Deluxe intercooler requires cutting of the undertray (black plastic tray under front of the car). We dropped the intercooler down to allow for more air flow to the radiator and to the FMIC. This intercooler uses the shortest available lower intercooler plumbing available and the lower pipe is included in the kit, this kit is $750.

The last FMIC kit we offer is the largest currently available. The core is 24x12x4" thick. This intercooler is what we consider our race version. Extremely low intake air temp charges at high boost and large turbo set ups. The kit is core only and will require just a slight trimming near the corners of the "webbing" that is in the front fascia. It is $850.

Our black EVO is running the last intercooler on it with our GT35R kit with the cast manifold and ran 10.3 at 141 mph last night.

Thanks for reading,

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

I'm running the Nisei intercooler and it works great. I’ve had no problem with it. The quality of the Nisei is top notch. I made 402hp and 437ft with the Nisei intercooler, stock turbo and a Turbotrix Flash on pump gas with methanol injection.

Doug

 

The average temperature is 85 degrees, in summer around 90, and from moderate to very high humidity all year!

And yeah, I also tought that I would be gaining hp after installation, but apparently not! Maybe someone else can explain why!

 

In the Puerto Rico heat that advantages gained from a fmic upgrade on a stock turbo car are increased dramatically. In that heat a better fmic is a great mod.

 

Go with Nisei. Only company thats actually did testing. Out performs buschur, greddy, perrin, turbo xs, etc....

 

I am pretty sure Buschur has done testing on all their fmic's, considering their racing history and all.

I just got my Buschur Deluxe FMIC and I am very happy with over all quality of the kit. I am also very happy with the engineering of the kit and how the lower pipe is so short.

nils

 

BBYBruno,

Please, if you are going to type something atleast type the truth. The Nisei is NOT the only company that did testing. The only "testing" they did was compare physical sizes and core make up. That is not a "test" it is simply taking measurements and making statements that they believe to be true about what is best.

Testing is measuring pressure drop and tempurature increases in a controlled environment on each and every intercooler vs. others.

Bring by your Nisei intercooler and I will dyno your car same day on our dyno with our FMIC and show you how to put an end to this nonsense.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

...so comparatively speaking ($$$), that would be a comparison of your standard intercooler with the Nisei, correct David?

 

buschur race intercooler, or the new 4" ams intercooler